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re: What Cities in Louisiana could've been much bigger?

Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:25 pm to
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Reading a book about the 1900 Galveston hurricane which is the deadliest natural disaster in American History and it mentions how Galveston could've been the Houston of today.


Houston was already bigger than Galveston in 1900
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:27 pm to
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The Boat
hey baw
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:27 pm to
Sup
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:31 pm to
Wyd

u ok? No serious injuries from having the dogs sicced on u?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:34 pm to
Princeton

Rumor is that the University wanted to move there but Walt Disney told them that Louisiana was a shitty place to domicile.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:36 pm to
I think there are cities along the Mississippi River that could have been bigger and would have been better off of more people settled closer together than people spread out which created a bunch of small cities.

Honestly, I am just making shite up. I really don't know.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:39 pm to
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Honestly, I am just making shite up. I really don't know.
DAMMIT CHRIS






















DON'T TALK LIKE THAT

IT CONFUSES US
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:40 pm to
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In fairness, the metro has continued to grow, and is up to nearly 1.3M.

Where is the New Orleans metro area ranked when it comes to metro area populations? 45th?
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:11 pm to
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If the Jones Act is ever repealled, ports like New Orleans would be more prosperous.

Wut
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:17 pm to
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The Merchant Marine Act of 1920, better known as the Jones Act, is a protectionist law that regulates maritime shipping in the United States.
The Jones Act requires that any cargo traveling by sea between two U.S. ports must sail on an American-owned ship, built in the United States and with a majority crew of U.S. citizens.
The Jones Act was passed in the wake of the first World War to boost the shipping industry.
Critics say that the Jones Act increases the cost of shipping for U.S. islands like Hawaii and Puerto Rico.


I'm simplifying this greatly, but it can be more expensive to run a cargo ship between New Orleans and Jacksonville than it is from New Orleans to Cancun to Jacksonville.

It's also a primary reason why even ships commissioned by Americans are typically flagged anywhere but here, to skirt the BS protectionist rules.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:24 pm to
Alexandria. There’s no argument! Grant and Rapides Parishes have denied and turned it’s nose up to at least five major corporations in the last five years alone. Consider everything about CenLa and try to find a bigger oppressed city/area in the state. ….or country for that matter!
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:25 pm to
I know exactly what the Jones Act is. To think it has any negative affect on the amount of cargo that passes thru the Mississippi River is laughable

The Jones Act is also the ONLY reason we have any shipbuilding expertise left in this country.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 9:27 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:31 pm to
Not necessarily. The 1920s were boom years, and shipping into New Orleans from other US ports should have been an easy win. I mean, there's a reason the British wanted it in the war of 1812, etc.

Instead, US ports and shipping companies ended up with an unforced error.

Obviously, there is no effective way for me to prove a negative over 100 years. However, why the continued reluctance to either repeal it, or suspend it in times of disaster? Why is it still there? To keep those dirty Canadians from crewing boats on the Great Lakes?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13392 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:42 pm to
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The Jones Act is also the ONLY reason we have any shipbuilding expertise left in this country.


Northrup Grumman needs contracts. The Congressional mafia keeps the defense builders supplied with cash. I don't give a damn whether a tanker is built in South Korea or in Mississippi. And one can't ignore our myriad of labor rules, EPA reviews, etc., compared to more favorable countries in Asia. The Jones act is clearly not the only reason there is a smattering of commercial ship building in the US.

What?

quote:

he entire U.S.-registered fleet of oceangoing commercial ships numbers fewer than 200 vessels, out of a global total of 44,000.

And despite trade flows to and from America exceeding a trillion dollars annually—the vast preponderance of which travel by sea—U.S.-registered ships carry barely 1% of that traffic.


quote:

Optimism is not warranted, given that the U.S. has lost 14 new-construction shipyards since 1970, with barely a peep from Washington.




Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
670 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:54 pm to
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The whole Disney thing is an urban legend. Someone asked Roy Disney about that rumor back in the early 80s and he said it was never happening. They had been buying land up in C.Fl since the late 50s. Walt wanted to get in on the vacation business that Florida was capitalizing on.. Louisiana was not in the tourism business .


This is correct. The gentlemen responsible for the success and location of both Disneyland and Disney World was Harrison ‘Buzz’ Price. He was an economist and Walt’s right hand man. South East Louisiana was Never a consideration for WDW.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9500 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:55 pm to
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Jefferson, TX. It was developed on land that was part of the Louisiana purchase, named in honor of Thomas Jefferson, and so, I'm including it, as it served as an important cultural and civic port as travel up the Mississippi to the Red River and past Shreveport, up Twelve Mile Bayou to Caddo Lake, then to the Cypress River, where Jefferson was built on the high banks.


The reason Jefferson didn’t blossom and thrive is because they didn’t run the railroad through it.

Shreveport was supposed to be what Houston is to O&G and/or what Memphis is to music, but the politicians and Baptists had to ruin it.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:56 pm to
The ports along the lower Mississippi River are the busiest by tonnage out of the entire country. The amount of cargo destined for American flagged ships and subject to the Jones act is a tiny fraction of the tonnage moved in total. It’s basically a handful of American flagged tankers shipping fuel to Florida. And that has more to do with Florida not having pipelines than it does with the Jones Act.

Essentially every single country on Earth with a coastline has a cabotage law so why shouldn’t the United States have one too?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:58 pm to
Pineville, home of the LSU Tigers
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:01 pm to
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Did y’all know Disney World was supposed to be in Baton Rouge?!?!?!


Actually LP but close enough
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7370 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:01 pm to
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Essentially every single country on Earth with a coastline has a cabotage law so why shouldn’t the United States have one too?


Because it artificially drives up prices.

That alone is more than enough reason to dispose of it- and that's long before you get into the consideration that direct shipping gets products to end destinations faster.
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