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re: What Big Pharma (and theFDA) dont want you to know about Opioid Epidemic
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:35 pm to CptRusty
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:35 pm to CptRusty
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take it upon themselves to exceed their prescribed medication, and further that the only reason it's getting press is because Prince OD'd.
My wife has reviewed mutiple medical reports for pa tints whose previous doctors had prescribed over 70 pills a week for patients with things like back pain, arthritis, and an already healed broken wrist.
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Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:37 pm to LucasP
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I can't take you seriously.
I'm sure I'll survive quote:
maybe grab a news article online occasionally.
fwiw I hit up drudge nearly every day.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:37 pm to CptRusty
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why were automobile deaths non existent prior to the early 1900's?
Why have manufacturers continually tried to make their automobiles safer and safer? I mean, not their fault if the car is a death trap, right?
Why does the government have safety standards? Why was OSHA created? There a entities in business that will act with absolutely no scruples.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:37 pm to More beer please
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Doctors dispensing out of their own clinics, "compound creams" pricing for 1-2k, consistent 90 pill oxy fills for patients that have been treating for years, claimants testing positive for opiates after being taken off the drugs because they got addicted,
Sounds like a pain management clinics claims. Or maybe a bad PCP. How many specialties are we encompassing with an idiotic, generalized statement like...
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"handed out like candy by doctors for the most benign conditions"
How many GYNS are handing out Oxy? Endocrinologists? Urologists? Cardiologists? Hepatologists?
Pain management is a niche in the healthcare system, and a well known "dirty" niche at that. The vast majority of physicians would never even consider writing an oxy scrip.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:39 pm to CptRusty
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fwiw I hit up drudge nearly every day.
Shocking. Listen to Rush Limbaugh as well?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:41 pm to ULSU
anecdotes are anecdotal. were they prescribing 70 Oxycontin? If so that doctor should lose his license, as far as I'm aware the FDA has only approved it for 2x/day use...or 14 pills per week. Am I wrong here? Can Oxy be prescribed for use every 3ish hours?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:42 pm to ULSU
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Listen to Rush Limbaugh as well?
Never, now who are you backing for President?
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:44 pm to CptRusty
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necdotes are anecdotal. were they prescribing 70 Oxycontin? If so that doctor should lose his license, as far as I'm aware the FDA has only approved it for 2x/day use...or 14 pills per week. Am I wrong here? Can Oxy be prescribed for use every 3ish hours
In these cases, the prescriptions far exceeded that, but that isn't at all part of the problem or relevant to those particular patients, right?
Yes, people should follow the prescribed amounts, but with these pain killers, that amount is often way more than necessary in the first place. It absolutely adds to the problem.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:45 pm to AU66
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kratom
All kratom did was give me a rash, and I bought a supposedly strong strain from an online dealer with a good reputation.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:46 pm to CptRusty
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Never, now who are you backing for President?
Probably Gary Johnson at this point. Trump is as crooked as they come, and I would never vote for a Democrat to any federal position.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:47 pm to CptRusty
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3ish
Every 4-6 hours.
When I was on Oxy, I was taking 15mg 4x daily.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:48 pm to ULSU
Young Americans don't need to take opioids.
And if this really is a social problem, please come up with an idea beyond jails and prison cells to address it. And then apply it to the millions of other addicts.
And if this really is a social problem, please come up with an idea beyond jails and prison cells to address it. And then apply it to the millions of other addicts.
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:50 pm to MSMHater
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Sounds like a pain management clinics claims. Or maybe a bad PCP. How many specialties are we encompassing with an idiotic, generalized statement like...
Nope mainly Orthos and PCPs. Its not an idiotic generalized statement when I see it every single day.
Looking at one now. 2 years after injury, no surgery, still getting 90 hydro 7.25-325
And that isnt even the worst ones. Just the one that is up infront of me at the moment
This post was edited on 6/2/16 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:50 pm to Overbrook
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Young Americans don't need to take opioids.
I would use medical Marijuana if I could, but nope. Alabama is still in the stone ages, and most voters will vote against someone who supports it.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:54 pm to VaBamaMan
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When I was on Oxy, I was taking 15mg 4x daily.
Is that what your prescription said to do? Serious question, I'm not being flippant.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:55 pm to More beer please
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mainly Orthos
I'll concede that. Forgot about them, and totally believe you with regard to that specialty.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:55 pm to ULSU
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You don't know shite about me, but I am sure you think you do based on this one interaction. That's how people like you operate
It literally took you two sentences to become a hypocrite.: lol:
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:57 pm to MSMHater
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How many GYNS are handing out Oxy? Endocrinologists? Urologists? Cardiologists? Hepatologists?
Pain management is a niche in the healthcare system, and a well known "dirty" niche at that. The vast majority of physicians would never even consider writing an oxy scrip.
you are really trying way too hard to pigeon hole this shite to death... sure, Oxycontin is an opiate that was written by doctors when this shite all sorta kicked off, but really it started mainly with ER scripts for stuff like Lortab, Vicodin, Norco, Percocet, Darvocet (no longer on the market), Lorcet, etc... they used to write this shite ALL THE TIME, and for lengths of time that were way longer than what the patient needed... add in unscrupulous physicians that used to write for the "trinity" (pain med + Soma + Xanax), and it's not hard to realize the origins of the epidemic we face today...
that's what happened to me... had strep, got a script for Vicodin ES 7.5/750mg #30... decide two was better than one (my own fault, no one else's), and ended up loving it a little too much... sent me on a 10 year long course that saw me almost losing everything i ever worked for, accomplished, or loved... including my family...
as i look forward to my 3 year mark of being clean, i understand i made the choices that led me to where i ended up, addicted, but no one can argue that we had safe guards in place, at that time, to prevent many patients that ended up addicts...
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:57 pm to MSMHater
Low back "strain"? Heres a prescription for pain meds. See me in a month. Oh that didnt work? Lets do an MRI and here is another presciption. MRI doesnt show anything, heres another refill and take PT.
Every. Single. Time.
Every. Single. Time.
Posted on 6/2/16 at 3:57 pm to ULSU
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people should follow the prescribed amounts,
period.
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with these pain killers, that amount is often way more than necessary in the first place
then that's on the doctor that prescribed it. Also, pain is a subjective thing and highly variable from person to person, so if you're suggesting that dosages are incorrect, then you had better have something to back that claim up.
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