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re: What are the views of the Pope? Non-Catholic Christians, Non-Christians and Women
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:01 pm to Artificial Ignorance
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:01 pm to Artificial Ignorance
I find the pageantry surrounding him odd, calling him "your holiness" etc. Seems way more like idol worship and ego than anything having to do with Christianity.
He's a regular man. Even if he's hypothetically wise and a good leader for the church he's shouldn't be semi worshipped. Hes also capable of sin like everyone else and many Popes throughout history have proven that.
Regardless, I hope the new Pope is a God fearing, God loving man who will be a good leader for the church. I'm not anti Catholic, it would be awesome if they would reform into a more faithful version of themselves.
He's a regular man. Even if he's hypothetically wise and a good leader for the church he's shouldn't be semi worshipped. Hes also capable of sin like everyone else and many Popes throughout history have proven that.
Regardless, I hope the new Pope is a God fearing, God loving man who will be a good leader for the church. I'm not anti Catholic, it would be awesome if they would reform into a more faithful version of themselves.
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:02 pm to rphtx
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Sorry you have not studied scripture in depth.
The problem seems to be you have not studied Catholic beliefs in depth. What you say does not conflict with what Catholics believe about confession. Christ gave the apostles the power to forgive sins as stated in the verses in John. This was passed down through apostolic sucession, that is an unbroken chain of laying on of hands from the apostles to current priests in the sacrament of ordination.
And, who says "anyone at all" cannot forgive sins? Here's a quote from the Bible you might recognize: "... and forgive us our trespasses as WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US."
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:03 pm to Artificial Ignorance
quote:You've come to the right place.
Curious about women’s views
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:03 pm to Artificial Ignorance
Seemed like a guy you didn't want hanging around the pre-school.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:05 pm to Artificial Ignorance
quote:I have no problems with men in traditional men’s roles
Curious about women’s views
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:10 pm to BigTx
That didn’t come from the Vatican though…
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:34 pm to LatinTiger30
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You don't understand the teaching of the Bible
Careful with your accusations.
I'm assuming you're Catholic, so I'll leave it with this. I have a direct line to the Cross, and the man who died for my sins.
And you may want to research the context of John 20:23....or not
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:41 pm to Artificial Ignorance
Retired Catholic.
Pope seems to be a facilitator of pedophilia and enabler of fudge packing among the ranks. Poon is the great normalizer. Let priests marry and you’ll attract normal men to the priesthood. Until then it will be homos or suppressed homos.
Pope seems to be a facilitator of pedophilia and enabler of fudge packing among the ranks. Poon is the great normalizer. Let priests marry and you’ll attract normal men to the priesthood. Until then it will be homos or suppressed homos.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:43 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
quote:this isn’t even true
Poon is the great normalizer. Let priests marry and you’ll attract normal men to the priesthood. Until then it will be homos or suppressed homos.
Lots of child molesters and gay prostitute clients are married
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:50 pm to Artificial Ignorance
Leader of the biggest organized crime family in the world.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:53 pm to GreenRockTiger
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this isn’t even true Lots of child molesters and gay prostitute clients are married
Deacons are more normal than priests. How many deacon molestation scandals have there been? Do deacons get systematically moved from parish to parish for diddling altar boys?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:04 pm to DeltaTigerDelta
quote:pretty many - a Google search can answer that
How many deacon molestation scandals have there been?
quote:back when priests were moved around for that, married deacons weren’t as prevalent but if any accusations arose, they were moved if they were friends of certain bishops
Do deacons get systematically moved from parish to parish for diddling altar boys?
Aren’t most of the teachers who sleep with their students married? Especially the stories posted on here. Or is that ok because they are female (mostly)?
What about the sex abuse scandals in other churches? Most other preachers can be married, and even if most other churches didn’t have as big as a cover up as the Catholic Church - many did move their preachers around and cover things up. And many denominations have just as many molesters as the Catholic Church - and their preachers are mostly allowed to be married.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:11 am to mudshuvl05
I'm with you on admiring the humble living faith of many Orthodox Christians, but your own lack of humility is glaring.
It also appears my post left a lot of room for your imagination and cynicism to make sweeping moral judgments about who I am, my intentions, and how faith, politics, and values intersect in my life. You managed to project an entire worldview on me through a culture war lens and then attack it. Ironically, all you did was make my point for me, which is that zealous converts often flatten the faith into a rigid purity fight or a vehicle to affirm their personal ideologies.
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He's a heretic and a proud, proud man who thinks he's smarter than everyone,
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Tone down the haughtiness a notch.
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I smell what you're stepping in now.
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having dozens upon dozens of cradle Catholics in my family (and as many protestant denominations as a Chinese buffet has breaded chicken), both the former and latter tend to be some of the most average, dull, ill-educated, and complacent uninteresting Christians to ever engage with.
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Your... heretical statements and nonsensical admiration... and the entire word salad really, has a smell, and it stinks from far away.
It also appears my post left a lot of room for your imagination and cynicism to make sweeping moral judgments about who I am, my intentions, and how faith, politics, and values intersect in my life. You managed to project an entire worldview on me through a culture war lens and then attack it. Ironically, all you did was make my point for me, which is that zealous converts often flatten the faith into a rigid purity fight or a vehicle to affirm their personal ideologies.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 12:33 am to Artificial Ignorance
The Pope holds the highest leadership position within the Catholic Church, an institution with significant global influence. Because of this, I would hope that he exemplifies strong Christian values in his leadership. However, since I am not Catholic, his role does not impact my personal religious beliefs.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 1:38 am to profdillweed
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NBC News reported that the Church's position is based on tradition and precedent, citing the historical practice of male-only ordination.
They should have reported the Church’s position is based on Holy Scripture, the Church’s biblical theology respecting ordination, and its subsequent teachings respecting ordination. The practice of male only ordination is based on those foundations.
Historical practice, tradition, and precedent flow from the solid scriptural foundations undergirding male only ordination.
Mere tradition or precedent unsupported by Holy Scripture and solid scriptural theology are assailable. That’s why NBC cleverly paints a lie as fact and promotes a feminist agenda promoting a destructive heresy in the Church whose founder they hate more than they hate the Church itself.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:51 am to Artificial Ignorance
I’m not Catholic.
I would prefer a leader to emphasize the Gospel of Christ instead of globalism.
I would prefer a leader to emphasize the Gospel of Christ instead of globalism.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 5:25 am to Artificial Ignorance
I think about 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and also how Papism is a cult. As usual.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:36 am to rphtx
Public Confession
This link demonstrates that from the earliest days of the Church, the manner in which Confession of Sins was practiced was not a private and secluded session in which the sinner sat alone with God. It was a public and vocal announcement in front of a Priest.
The facts of history are there for those who care to learn.
We know how the ancient Christians understood this Scripture, and they spoke Koine Greek very well.
This link demonstrates that from the earliest days of the Church, the manner in which Confession of Sins was practiced was not a private and secluded session in which the sinner sat alone with God. It was a public and vocal announcement in front of a Priest.
The facts of history are there for those who care to learn.
We know how the ancient Christians understood this Scripture, and they spoke Koine Greek very well.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:02 am to Snipe
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It's about as much a disaster as all the false religions and man made christianities
Surely you understand that the RCC as it is today was born out of a political desire by the Bishop of Rome Pope Gregory I to consolidate lands and power in ~590 AD. I say this as a former Catholic who actually read up on some church history and as one who understands the audience here on TD may not like that.
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Christ established his one Holy and Apostolic Church and he will not abandon it
The word you are missing between holy and apostolic is catholic (little 'c'), meaning "all encompassing" which is in both the Nicene Creed and Apostle's Creed. As a rule of thumb, one should be skeptical of monoliths that claim to have a monopoly on information.
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People rejecting the Catholic church over scandal are being lead straight to hell by the original lier himself.
We have more than a few TD master debaters who would love to argue just the logic of this statement. Jesus never said you must be Catholic, he said whoever believes in Him shall receive eternal life. He also said that in His Father's house there are many rooms and that He will prepare a place for us. So, my brother in Christ, remove the plank from your own eye.
You can have the last word.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 4:48 pm to Lexis Dad
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John 20:21-23 "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”
Interesting choice. I would have gone with James 5:16Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much
But I can understand why you didn’t.
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