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re: What a national embarrassment that we haven’t been back to the Moon in nearly 50 years

Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:43 pm to
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I didn't call anyone an idiot. There's some things I'd feel more comfortable not fricking with. Maybe that makes me the idiot.


I mistook you for another poster who called me such with the same team icon. I apologize. My mistake.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted by genro
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:44 pm to
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that OM poster that's always in hysterics about everything
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:45 pm to
I guess we wouldn’t be friends IRL.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:46 pm to
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They just drop the cargo into Earth’s orbit, but you want to launch a minimum from Earth until we have a space elevator, which is at best 50 years away

Expound on this for me, please.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:46 pm to
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Saving the species? Some variation of Interstellar is inevitable. Might as well get the ball rolling as soon as possible.



Why do you think going to the moon achieves that?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:47 pm to
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Expound on this for me, please.


I’d probably say at least 100 years away, but that’s best case scenario. We have to perfect carbon nanotubes and AI before it is possible. I’m not all that optimistic about it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:48 pm to
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Why do you think going to the moon achieves that?


To launch for the stars and be the central base of mining, you bet your arse I do.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:54 pm to
How bout we cure cancer first
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:54 pm to
Reusable rockets help
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 10:56 pm to
What does another moon landing do? Nothing. It would costs billions of dollars to accomplish nothing. We need to think about deep space exploration. How about Mars? Let’s get to Mars.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:00 pm to
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How will we do that, and what’s the value of doing that?


we know less about our own planet and what lives in our ocean depths then we do about the moon and our solar system.

to get there they need ships capable of handling extreme pressures which we will need to explore space as well.

what we learn about how life survives at the crushing depths of our desolate oceans will prepare us for the vast reaches of space where equally desolate planets with varying atmospheres could also have life.

the ROI is much much greater to explore our ocean depths then piddling around on the moon playing with rocks and moon dust
Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:01 pm to
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And if you doubt me, look at what device in which you are replying to me. That is a result of NASA engineering.


No, it’s not. The internet is the result of a Dept. of Defense project.

Not only that, but most major technological jumps from satellites, etc. don’t result from NASA, but rather the DOD. GPS is a prime example, it wasn’t NASA, but rather USAF that created the technology.

The current model for space exploration in the US is reliance on private companies like SpaceX using their R&D to create technologies that they can then use to make money in both the private and governmental sectors. There’s no reason to spend taxpayer money on space when there’s competent civilian companies willing to do it.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 11:02 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:02 pm to
Why are you always melting about inconsequential shite?
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:02 pm to
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To launch for the stars and be the central base of mining, you bet your arse I do.


Do you realize that the distance between here and the moon is completely negligible when compared to the distance between "the stars" as you call it?

Do you think we'll get some great head start by leaving from the moon?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:04 pm to
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How bout we cure cancer first


I’m sure this is a troll, but people use this excuse all the time when it comes to space travel. “What about ______”. There’s always going to be that blank, and I promise you that ______ today is much smaller than that ____________ in the fricking 60s. It’s complete bullshite, and we will always use that bullshite excuse until it’s too late. We’ve never been in a better time to invest in something like this. Are we in any real danger of being nuked or our country going under? No? Well then why don’t we invest in this now while we have the luxury rather than waiting until it’s too late?
Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Are we in any real danger of being nuked or our country going under? No? Well then why don’t we invest in this now while we have the luxury rather than waiting until it’s too late?


I think it’s interesting that you bring this up, because the Cold War arms race is the only reason that we made it to the moon in the first place. If we didn’t have a need for rocket technology to launch ICBMs, we would have never gone to the moon in the first place.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Some variation of Interstellar is inevitable.


No, it isn't. And the fact that we have yet to see other species traveling around interstellarly is strong evidence that it isn't practical or even possible.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:09 pm to
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Do you realize that the distance between here and the moon is completely negligible when compared to the distance between "the stars" as you call it?


It’s not the distance between the Moon and the Earth that is the issue, it’s the Earth’s gravity and atmosphere that is the problem. The Moon doesn’t present that problem. You have to put far more fuel into a spacecraft to launch from Earth than from the Moon. If you can produce the fuel on the Moon (feasible), then your main issue is getting a man from Earth to the Moon rather than from the Moon to the cosmos. You can use a fraction of the fuel and get a much bigger boost from the Moon than you can from the Earth. Hell, you can go back to Earth and get a whiplash effect that launching from it wouldn’t provide.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:10 pm to
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No, it isn't.


Earth is on a ticking time clock. It might not be a few hundred million years down the line best case scenario, but it will happen.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:13 pm to
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No, it’s not. The internet is the result of a Dept. of Defense project.


No, it’s Apollo 11. Why do you think we greatly minimized the size of computers. It was to get them on a fricking rocket.
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