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re: What % of LSU students are equally as intelligent as the average Ivy League student?
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:20 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:20 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Education and intelligence have no correlation whatsoever.
Some of the dumbest mfers I've ever met have "PhD" behind their name. Some of the smartest didn't finish their Bachelor's degree.
Ivy League is usually more about background and money than anything else. They throw a few scholarship crumbs to the poors to save face but it is about status and preserving it for the right people and families
I see intelligence as the ability to solve problems and think critically. In those terms, it has nothing whatsoever to do with education. Sometimes education is a hindrance.
Some of the dumbest mfers I've ever met have "PhD" behind their name. Some of the smartest didn't finish their Bachelor's degree.
Ivy League is usually more about background and money than anything else. They throw a few scholarship crumbs to the poors to save face but it is about status and preserving it for the right people and families
I see intelligence as the ability to solve problems and think critically. In those terms, it has nothing whatsoever to do with education. Sometimes education is a hindrance.
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Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:22 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Imagine going to an Ivy League school just to end up working for one of the Big 4
You know not everyone in Big 4 is doing audit or tax right? I worked in a consulting practice that mostly recruited from the prestigious academic universities.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:23 am to Bjorn Cyborg
When I was there it was just me and another guy.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I think Ivy Leagues attract a certain type of person, and it's not always driven by intelligence.
Mostly socially ignorant autists.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I think Ivy Leagues attract a certain type of person, and it's not always driven by intelligence.
There are a guy at my elementary school who was kind of the "designated overachiever." He'd do things like play a violin at the whole-school assembly (in the second grade
). I always figured a lot of us were just as smart as him, but we just wanted to be ordinary little kids. That's kind of my take on the Ivy League... at least on people from Louisiana who end up at an Ivy League school.
(I'd like to check up on my elementary school child prodigy buddy, but he has an extremely common name. I'd gladly take 3:2 odds on a bet that that kid ended up at an Ivy League school.)
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:26 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Ivy League schools are bend the rules for certain student. I'll leave it at that.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:28 am to fr33manator
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I mean, have you seen some of the ivy school grads?
Yes, that's my point.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:33 am to BlackAdam
quote:I'm very well aware of that. Still doesn't require an Ivy league education to break into Big 4 advisory. People from SEC schools do it every year. My family if full of people who either currently do or have previously worked in Big 4 advisory, and none of them graduated from what would be considered a "prestigious" university.
You know not everyone in Big 4 is doing audit or tax right? I worked in a consulting practice that mostly recruited from the prestigious academic universities.
Personally I turned down advisory because I didn't want to travel like they did. Constantly being away from my friends and family wasn't for me.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:35 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Buddy, the average Ivy League student isn't there because of their academic excellence. However, I'd wager that the average Ivy League student has had more educational access and exposure than the top percentage of LSU students.
Rich vs Wealthy.
Rich vs Wealthy.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:35 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Your laziness caused you to be "overlooked".
Probably 5% or so. 4 people I graduated high school with went to ivy league or Stanford, and while they were smart the differentiator is all the work that goes into getting into those schools.
Seems to be a trend for you.
Additionally, your use of the word "differentiator" here was simply not electrifying.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:35 am to USMEagles
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I'd like to check up on my elementary school child prodigy buddy, but he has an extremely common name.
Used some PI skills to finally find him.
Earned dual bachelor degrees from MIT at age 21, went to Microsoft as a computer programmer, and then moved on the competitive poker. Yawn.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:38 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Imagine going to an Ivy League school just to end up working for one of the Big 4
right?!
i mean a career aimed at making $1million+ per year as a partner and rockstar pension.....
know how I know you don't know jack shite about Big 4?
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:38 am to soccerfüt
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Your laziness caused you to be "overlooked".
No, I didn't even apply because I didn't want to do what was required.
You seem to want to make this indictment on me, I was simply showing the fact that Ivy League admissions is about more than just your SAT score.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:40 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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ery well aware of that. Still doesn't require an Ivy league education to break into Big 4 advisory. People from SEC schools do it every year. My family if full of people who either currently do or have previously worked in Big 4 advisory, and none of them graduated from what would be considered a "prestigious" university.
The big money advisory roles are heavily focused in the Northeast and a large majority of those positions are filled from pretty prestigious universities. We're not talking about IT controls out of Houston.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
wife is ITS big 4 out of Houston......got a lot of Rice grads as well.
Rice = Ivy IMHO
Rice = Ivy IMHO
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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No, I didn't even apply
Then why are you offering insight on a process you know nothing more about than a quick Google search would tell you?
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:46 am to CharlesLSU
quote:You think that, but you're wrong.
know how I know you don't know jack shite about Big 4?
My point is that you don't require an ivy league education or a degree from a prestigious institution to get into the Big 4 like you do for many of the top hedge funds or investment banking companies.
Deloitte, KPMG, PWC, and EY directly recruit from the large majority of SEC schools. Some of the specific advisory areas are tougher to get into than others, but nothing that mandates an Ivy League education.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:47 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Then why are you offering insight on a process you know nothing more about than a quick Google search would tell you?
Because 4 of my classmates that I kept up with in the classroom did it. The question was what percentage of non Ivy students could keep up with Ivy students. I relayed my experience that there are students that can, but the main difference for a lot of people is the out of classroom requirements.
If you had to go to an Ivy to reply to this thread, there'd be zero replies.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:This^, my friends, is what is known in the legal world as a "confession".
No, I didn't even apply because I didn't want to do what was required.
You seem to want to make this indictment on me
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:49 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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I think Ivy Leagues attract a certain type of person, and it's not always driven by intelligence.
This is correct. They’re looking for people willing to dedicate themselves to the course load. The professional student types. That doesn’t necessarily make them more intelligent than an LSU graduate.
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