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re: Were the LRRP teams in Vietnam the biggest badasses the US military ever produced?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:45 pm to LazloHollyfeld
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:45 pm to LazloHollyfeld
This was the book I read about them. It was a good one.
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:48 pm to LazloHollyfeld
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Jocko Podcast interviewed a bunch of the MACV-SOG guys. Wild stories. There is a spin-off podcast called SOGcast trying to capture all these guys stories before they are gone. Tilt is not the best interviewer but the stories are incredible ETA: John Stryker Meyer/Tilt is the host of SOGcast.
Been listening to Jocko’s Tilt episodes. Dude is awesome.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:48 pm to Darth_Vader
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communist sympathies from Democrats
And that heffa Jane Fonda was leading the charge
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:49 pm to grizzlylongcut
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That was Operation Linebacker, correct? I’ve read a little about that.
Operation Linebacker II to be exact.
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Just like after Tet, we completely destroyed the NVA and VC’s capabilities to wage war. Should’ve gone hard north after Tet.
Another huge lie sold to the American public. It’s was the Tet Offensive that the American media portrayed as the “Turing point” than meant the war was, as Walter Cronkite himself said was “unwinnable”. It was a lie. The truth of the Tet Offensive is it was a total disaster for the North, ended the Viet Cong as an effective military force, and decimated the NVA to the point it was in apt of offensive operations until 1972 when it launched its abortive Easter Offensive which fared no better than Tet, even though by 1972 there were virtually no US ground forces left in South Vietnam. It was the failure of the Easter Offensive of 1972 which lays bare another leftist lie, namely that South Vietnam could not fight on its own without US ground forces.
Again I tell you, virtually everything most people know about the Vietnam War is an outright lie.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
I read a book about the first SF teams in basic. The soldiers went nuts and were wearing ear necklaces after they killed and cut their ears off as trophies 
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:52 pm to grizzlylongcut
Grandfather was MACV-SOG. He’s he’s mentioned as “the MSG” in a couple of the the vignettes in Robin Moore’s “The Green Berets”.
I still have his beer can insignia of the unit.
I still have his beer can insignia of the unit.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:52 pm to LegendInMyMind
Oddly, two guys from my small hometown were both in LRRP units. One of them told me about going to a building in Laos for debriefing and running into a high school buddy of his in the same building who was CIA.
I asked the CIA guy about it years later and though a good friend, he only wryly smiled and said, "who in hell told you that?"
We also had two Green Berets from the same graduating class. Fairly odd for a town of less than 5,000.
On another note, one of these guys' mother got as late night phone call from a woman identifying herself as Jane Fonda. Told the mom her son was captured by the Vietnamese and they were going to try him for murdering children. Fortunately, they were related to a high powered Washington politician who they immediately contacted. In a day or so he called them back to say their son was safe but he could not disclose where he was.
I asked the CIA guy about it years later and though a good friend, he only wryly smiled and said, "who in hell told you that?"
We also had two Green Berets from the same graduating class. Fairly odd for a town of less than 5,000.
On another note, one of these guys' mother got as late night phone call from a woman identifying herself as Jane Fonda. Told the mom her son was captured by the Vietnamese and they were going to try him for murdering children. Fortunately, they were related to a high powered Washington politician who they immediately contacted. In a day or so he called them back to say their son was safe but he could not disclose where he was.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:54 pm to grizzlylongcut
SOG teams, which is what I think you are talking about. I’ve read a few great books on them. Total badasses.
The book above is one of the ones I read. Fantastic book.
The book above is one of the ones I read. Fantastic book.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:54 pm to Proximo
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read a book about the first SF teams in basic. The soldiers went nuts and were wearing ear necklaces after they killed and cut their ears off as trophies
Is that going nuts or just turning into the type of killer that situation would naturally produce?
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:55 pm to grizzlylongcut
My dad was a 2 LT LRRP Ranger out of ROTC at NLU in Vietnam in 1969-70. Retired a Col and still kicking it around today. 
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:57 pm to Honest Tune
Semantics
This is the book, really good read
This is the book, really good read
Posted on 4/18/23 at 9:58 pm to Proximo
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Semantics
Fair enough. It just seems about the same thing as a Pawnee taking a scalp in battle.
Would love to read the book.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:01 pm to Honest Tune
It’s awesome. Pretty sure this is the one that discusses the first special forces selection as well.
I recall something about the commander showing up in a Hawaiian shirt and them not knowing wtf was going on and walking the bottoms of their feet off. It has funny anecdotes too
I recall something about the commander showing up in a Hawaiian shirt and them not knowing wtf was going on and walking the bottoms of their feet off. It has funny anecdotes too
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:03 pm to Proximo
When I was a teen in the 80s, one of my friends told how his dad wore ears as a necklace in Nam. I believe it, his dad was cool but a little crazy. He was one of our 7th grade football coaches and one day one of the players dad was jawing at the head coach on the other side of the outfield fence. He fast walked over to the fence, hopped it, and punched the man square in between the eyes and knocked him unconscious for about a minute. He wasn’t even who the dad was jawing at. I felt bad for the son.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:03 pm to Centinel
Here's the insignia I mentioned. Any of you familiar with MACV will recognize it and what it represents.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:03 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This was the book I read about them. It was a good one.
Just finished it. Would recommend
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:04 pm to Proximo
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I recall something about the commander showing up in a Hawaiian shirt and them not knowing wtf was going on
Speaking of Nam vets, ha.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:10 pm to Marlo Stanfield
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SOG teams, which is what I think you are talking about.
I’m talking about them and the other LRRP guys as well. The SOG guys definitely stand out though.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:19 pm to grizzlylongcut
Was it Colonel Howard who dies within the last 10 or so years who was a SOG team leader and one of the ultra elite guys during Vietnam? Bob Howard maybe was his name? The shite those guys did and encountered in Laos and Cambodia is legendary. A many of Army chopper pilots died during those operations as well. The yards, or native mountain people, on the SOG teams were badasses as well. Reminds me that I need to buy a new book about it to read.
Posted on 4/18/23 at 10:27 pm to Centinel
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