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re: Well, I didn't win the Powerball...again

Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:54 am to
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
1818 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:54 am to
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If I flip a coin 9 times and get heads every time, does that increase my chances for tails in the next flip?


I understand the gamblers fallacy but this is a different thing. What are the odds that if you flip a coin 5 times it hits tails one of those times? Different question that what are the odds it hits tails on the fifth flip. Get me?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24669 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:54 am to
I only buy tickets few times a year when the big amount gets in the news. One baw on here says he won 50k years ago. $50k isn’t life changing money but I don’t mind spending 10 bucks a year for a chance.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26103 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:56 am to
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The odds PER DRAW are the same, but if you are playing the same numbers over multiple draws, the odds of winning for those numbers increases with each additional draw. If you play the same numbers once, the odds are one in a billion or whatever it is. If you play them twice, it’s two in a billion, etc. I’m not suggesting this makes it smart to play the lottery (it is dumb) or that it makes it likely you will win (it is so unlikely it is literally difficult to comprehend how unlikely it is).



You’re assuming the lottery can’t hit the same numbers twice that aren’t your number. It’s not like once they hit a certain time it doesn’t have the exact same chance of hitting those numbers again.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16066 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:56 am to
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I never understood this. I know this is the OT but is the $20 million starting jackpot not enough for people? Everybody talks about buying on large pots but they act like 20 million is chump change.


Risk vs reward.

The odds are so insurmountable that a low jackpot just doesn’t attract the interest as a huge one. The odds are the same, and everyone knows they aren’t gonna win anyway, so it’s harder to turn loose of that money for a lesser reward.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
1818 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:09 am to
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It’s not like once they hit a certain time it doesn’t have the exact same chance of hitting those numbers again.


You are right, per draw. But I am not talking about per draw. By your logic, the odds would be the same for a set of lottery numbers to hit twice as for it to hit once. That is obviously not true.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31815 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:14 am to
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Well, I didn't win the Powerball...again


The lottery. A tax on people that are bad at math...
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31815 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:17 am to
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sure, but that $18,000 spread over 60 years is $312/yr or $6/wk..which is also basically nothing


But put that measly $6 in your 401k and compound the interest for 60 years. At typical rates of return (7%), it would be worth roughly $300k at maturity. At a 10% rate of return, it's well over $1 million. That's something.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 10:20 am
Posted by RaginRampage
Detroit Lions Fan
Member since Feb 2018
271 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:20 am to
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The lottery. A tax on people that are bad at math...


Or people looking to help fund the education system.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31815 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:23 am to
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how does this have 4 upvotes


As I said...

quote:

The lottery. A tax on people that are bad at math...

Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
1034 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:23 am to
Funny that you mention that, I actually won and am now the current owner of tigerdroppings.com.

My first decree as owner is that the only acceptable topics are LSU sports and grilling recipes.

Carry on.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2423 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:29 am to
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Definitely a scam


My conspiracy theory is powerball is a way to move money from across the country to california's coffers (state taxes)
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 10:30 am
Posted by LSUnatick
South of Lafourche
Member since Jul 2008
1579 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:31 am to
CA doesn't tax lottery winnings you tin foil hat wearing fool.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18942 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 11:22 am to
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I understand the gamblers fallacy but this is a different thing. What are the odds that if you flip a coin 5 times it hits tails one of those times? Different question that what are the odds it hits tails on the fifth flip. Get me?


That’s different.

You can calculate the odds of hitting tails once out of 5 times because each flip is a 50/50 chance. However, what happened the last 4 times does not change the odds of the last flip…it’s still 50/50.

If the lottery was 2 numbers and it was played 1000 times and 2 never hit, it would be improbable sure. But it doesn’t change the fact that the last draw is a 50/50 chance.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31862 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Both are pretty much zero.


That’s what makes me laugh when people buy 100s of dollars worth of tickets… I usually get 2, it was definitely a joke that I splurged and bought 3 instead…

Only takes one ticket to win, and you can’t win unless you buy one..
Best thing to do is buy into a group of friends or work colleagues.

There was a guy in Metairie who purchased two tickets, that afternoon his wife asked if he’d run to the store and grab some milk. While he was there, he purchased one more ticket. That ticket happened to hit the jackpot.

No chance in hell I’m buying a Mega Millions ticket after it went up to 5 bucks.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:30 pm to
The odds are closer to zero than scams are.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5045 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 12:48 pm to
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so it’s harder to turn loose of that money for a lesser reward


We're talking $20,000,000.

I understand more tickets being bought by groups at work that pitch in together to buy a lot.

But individuals going just when it gets over 100 makes no sense to me.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20549 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Got 2 numbers + the Powerball. That's worth a million or two, right?

Just in case you are unaware, you win $7. Don't throw it away
Posted by oldtrucker
Marianna, Fl
Member since Apr 2013
2995 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:43 pm to
You baws are why I'm standing in line to pay for my Snickers bar
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1598 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:29 pm to
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But put that measly $6 in your 401k and compound the interest for 60 years. At typical rates of return (7%), it would be worth roughly $300k at maturity. At a 10% rate of return, it's well over $1 million. That's something.



Sure, but I'm sure even you "waste" more than $312/yr on something.
Posted by AgCoug
Houston
Member since Jan 2014
6513 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:42 pm to
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1,000 / 292,000,000 = 0.000342% vs 0.000000342 % chance of winning.


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