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re: We should tax Fast Food like cigarettes to help deter consumption.

Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Toroballistic
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:33 am to
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America is disgusting.


Then move somewhere else, please.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:34 am to
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So you really do not comprehend...

It's not your fault, I see that now.


Supposed conservative openly advocates for new taxes and is shocked someone disagrees...
Posted by Dragula
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:41 am to
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Supposed conservative openly advocates for new taxes and is shocked someone disagrees...


Oh I'm registered Republican.

Again, it's not your fault... you do not understand the process of taxation, in particular excise duties .
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:43 am to
You can deflect all you want. You want the government to collect more taxes for something you don't like. Who made you the decision maker? And is taxing things you don't like really the precedent you want set?
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:50 am to
Yes.... for no other reason than for the cost that later comes to people's health. They will drain the medical system later due to these poor choices.
Posted by Dragula
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6500 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:52 am to
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You want the government to collect more taxes for something you don't like. Who made you the decision maker? And is taxing things you don't like really the precedent you want set?


Yes... The Government spent $283 Billion on obesity-related direct health costs in 2023, projected to rise to $526.5 Billion by 2033.

You might be fine with that or likely part of the problem, but I as a healthy individual should not have to pay for your McDonald's heath related habit.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:56 am to
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Yes... The Government spent $283 Billion on obesity-related direct health costs in 2023, projected to rise to $526.5 Billion by 2033.



And you think a tax on only fast food is going to have any kind of real impact on that? The answer is no.

So not only are you not reducing healthcare costs with this feel good tax, you're taxing otherwise healthy people that are on road trips or need a quick bite for whatever reason. That's stupid.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:00 am to
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Yes... The Government spent $283 Billion on obesity-related direct health costs in 2023, projected to rise to $526.5 Billion by 2033.

You might be fine with that or likely part of the problem, but I as a healthy individual should not have to pay for your McDonald's heath related habit.


That is my point as well.

Remember when people said they didn't want to take the Covid vaccine and celebrities were screaming "let them die in the streets for their stupid decisions"? Hospitals shouldn't admit un vaxxed patients. Remember that?

Well... I am willing to allow these people to make poor nutritional decisions at their own risk. But... they have to pay a food "sin tax". Ever buy beer and wine in La? Guess what? The taxes are higher than regular groceries. I pay it with the understanding consuming alcohol is not the healthiest decision I could make.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:01 am to
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Ever buy beer and wine in La? Guess what? The taxes are higher than regular groceries. I pay it with the understanding consuming alcohol is not the healthiest decision I could make.

Using other stupid taxes as a defense of another stupid tax. That is certainly a take
Posted by Dragula
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:02 am to
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That's stupid.


Right on que...

Democrat disagrees and automatically it's "You're dumb, you're racist, you're a transphobe....
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:03 am to
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Right on que...

Democrat disagrees and automatically it's "You're dumb, you're racist, you're a transphobe....


I like how you have no rebuttal to the post.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25882 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:07 am to
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Well... I am willing to allow these people to make poor nutritional decisions at their own risk. But... they have to pay a food "sin tax". Ever buy beer and wine in La? Guess what? The taxes are higher than regular groceries. I pay it with the understanding consuming alcohol is not the healthiest decision I could make.

Where do the taxes on alcohol go?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44211 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:10 am to
What I've learned in this thread:

Taxes on things I like: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Taxes on things I don't like: TAX IT TO THE GROUND!

Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:10 am to
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So not only are you not reducing healthcare costs with this feel good tax, you're taxing otherwise healthy people that are on road trips or need a quick bite for whatever reason. That's stupid.


Should we repeal alcohol and cigarette taxes for travelers ?

I think one of the reasons we have turned the corner on cigarette consumption is taxes. It has worked. I smoked for 10 years out of college and quit 29 years ago. No way I could spend that kind of money again to help destroy my health. I think this has had a positive effect of health care costs. Unfortunately, obesity related diseases have swallowed up any savings realized.

Eating fast food is poison. I travel 200 days a year and hate how I feel eating McDonalds, Wendys or Chick Fila. It is high in sodium and a plethera of other bad things.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:11 am to
Should tax internet consumption, would make for a more productive work force and nation
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:13 am to
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Should we repeal alcohol and cigarette taxes for travelers ?



Should repeal them all together IMO.
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It has worked. I smoked for 10 years out of college and quit 29 years ago.
You quit because you realized you were killing yourself, not because of taxes.
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Eating fast food is poison.


Outdated take is outdated. There are plenty of healthy options at fast food places.
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I travel 200 days a year and hate how I feel eating McDonalds, Wendys or Chick Fila. It is high in sodium and a plethera of other bad things.


Choose better options when eating fast food then. More taxes is never an answer to anything.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:14 am to
I eat fast food maybe once every few months and I say no. We have too many taxes already. Everything is taxed. We already pay over $10 for a value meal thanks to sleepy Joe.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11313 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:16 am to
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Taxes on things I don't like: TAX IT TO THE GROUND!


Like "tax the rich"?

I don't think even the "science" can defend the nutrional challenges fast food presents to our society.

I guess the new motto should be "Tax the rich and let me eat Ma McDonalds until I get diabetes and become disabled at 50 to work".

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35855 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:16 am to
Dude, you are fat because your bored sedentary arse is making regular visits to McD's, Sonic. Popeye's and Taco Bell and you are using America's favorite addictive substance daily, sugar.

Eliminate the cola, bread and potato chips and Little Debbie's and most cereal and you would probably be fine.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 9:16 am to
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Like "tax the rich"?

I don't think even the "science" can defend the nutrional challenges fast food presents to our society.

I guess the new motto should be "Tax the rich and let me eat Ma McDonalds until I get diabetes and become disabled at 50 to work".



I'm really liking how you keep using stupid tax arguments to defend your position in this thread
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