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re: Waukesha Christmas Parade Massacre Trial - Brooks Gets 6-Life Sent. + 762.5 yrs in prison

Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53284 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:23 am to
Oh look...another break because of his bullshite.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:23 am to
I get what she’s doing but she’s doing a poor job of it. There is a zero percent chance of the trial finishing if he’s in the room. It just can’t possibly happen.
Posted by GeauxldnGurl
Member since Nov 2010
686 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:24 am to
He finally learned how to pronounce tacit.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147182 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:24 am to
And... back to the other courtroom we go


KEEP HIM THERE THIS TIME!!!!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97068 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:24 am to
Brooks knows his time is short. So glad he'll be in prison for life soon enough.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:24 am to
Do you think there's something in Illinois v Allen that she's concerned about not letting him back in when he asks? Surely his conduct at this point would override any kind of demand to be present in the courtroom just to delay.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I get what she’s doing but she’s doing a poor job of it. There is a zero percent chance of the trial finishing if he’s in the room. It just can’t possibly happen.

She needs to keep him in the other court room until time for his closing statement. Once he goes off the rails then she can end his closing statement and kick him out again.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
77522 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:25 am to
I’m guessing she’s doing this to make his appeal useless? I don’t understand the numerous attempts to bring him back knowing he’s just going to repeat the same silly questions.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:25 am to
quote:

I get what she’s doing but she’s doing a poor job of it. There is a zero percent chance of the trial finishing if he’s in the room. It just can’t possibly happen.




This needs to be the last time he is moved back and forth. He should be relegated to the other room until his closing argument and, even then, he may need to give that from the other room. She should not give in again.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Do you think there's something in Illinois v Allen that she's concerned about not letting him back in when he asks?


Sadly, yes.

Held:

1. A defendant can lose his right to be present at trial if, following the judge's warning that he will be removed if his disruptive behavior continues, he nevertheless insists on conducting himself in such a disruptive manner that his trial cannot proceed if he remains in the courtroom. He can reclaim the right to be present as soon as he is willing to comport himself with decorum and respect. Pp. 397 U. S. 342-343.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:27 am to
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He can reclaim the right to be present as soon as he is willing to comport himself with decorum and respect. Pp. 397 U. S. 342-343.


Which he continues to fail at doing
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24217 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:27 am to
She is giving him leeway because she doesn't want him to have a valid basis for appeal, even a HINT that he might win.

Judges hate being overturned on appeal. (And she doesn't want the families to have to go through this again)
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:28 am to
The 2nd part of that decision also says "(3) remove him from the courtroom, while the trial continues, until he promises to conduct himself properly."

Based on that as soon as he "promises" to follow the rules he can come back.

ETA: At this point though I would take the risk. This is not going to get overturned based on him not being in the actual courtroom.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 9:29 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40157 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:29 am to
the part has yet to come.

his closing arguments.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9768 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:29 am to
quote:


r/Justice4Darrell
•Posted by
u/Naychaboy
10 hours ago

The Complete Darrell Brooks defence argument...
It wasn't my SUV.
But hypothetically if it was, it definitely had defective brakes.
And hypothetically if it didn't have defective brakes, I wasn't driving it.
And hypothetically if I was driving it, I wasn't trying to hit anyone.
And hypothetically if I was trying to hit anyone, I definitely wasn't trying to kill anyone.
And hypothetically if I was trying to kill anyone, I feel really really sorry about it now.
And hypothetically if I doesn't feel really sorry about it, the court has no subject matter jurisdiction.
And hypothetically if the court has subject matter jurisdiction, they haven't proven it in the written decision I received.
And hypothetically if they did prove it, I tore it up anyway.
And hypothetically, besides all of that, there is no plaintiff.
And hypothetically if there is a plaintiff, there are no injured parties.
And hypothetically despite all of the dead people, and parents of injured parties I called to the stand myself, it don't matter.

Because I am not an idiot.

Did I miss anything?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:29 am to
Was just about to post that. It's a shitty infinite loop where he can act like an arse, be removed, request to be brought back, and repeat. Is it possible for an appeals court to take this up just to rule that a judge can use their discretion to more permanently remove an unruly defendant from the room?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Based on that as soon as he "promises" to follow the rules he can come back.

ETA: At this point though I would take the risk. This is not going to get overturned based on him not being in the actual courtroom.


He doesn't ever really agree to follow the rules, though. The number of times he has had to be removed warrants keeping him in that room. I think any court will uphold that.

He will not ever actually agree to keep quiet during the instructions.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3827 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:32 am to
quote:

He can reclaim the right to be present as soon as he is willing to comport himself with decorum and respect.


He has not demonstrated a willingness to do anything close to this. Not one time. In fact, he has threatened continuously to disrupt and be disrespectful at every turn. I cannot recall one time where he has promised to do anything within the boundaries of court decorum. He is a jackass of the highest order.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23044 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:33 am to
She's calling him on it now. Making him write out his intent to come back with a pledge to not interrupt. She's going to permanently boot his arse if he writes it out (which he won't) then interrupts anyway. She knows he's not going to commit to anything
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/25/22 at 9:33 am to
This DA is great. Thinking of everything.
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