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re: Was It Rape? Or Was It Regrettable Drunk Sex?

Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:26 pm to
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20 years old or not, there are limits to human physical performance.


At 20, I pretty much had a semi at all times. Blackout drunk performance would have been no problem. Finishing, on the other hand, quite the whiskey-dicked issue.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:26 pm to
TL:DR - Let her be on top. Not rape. Too drunk to be on top? Too drunk for sex.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:26 pm to
Also, why is it that for rape accusations people who would normally subscribe to the saying of "better 10 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man be convicted" are suddenly of the mindset of "believe every word the woman says and let men fry?"
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20911 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:27 pm to
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You inferred that out of thin air. Dude's dick was apparently working well enough. 20 years old or not, there are limits to human physical performance. Having no actual evidence one way or another, it is more likely that he was not blackout drunk than that he was.


Im basing that on my fraternity formal days. Are you suggesting his ability to get a boner is indicative of his soberness?

I can't tell you how many drunken (and consentual) times my date and I did it, often at her prompting. The only difference between this and that is my long-term girlfriend was always my date.

Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Let her be on top. Not rape. Too drunk to be on top? Too drunk for sex.


I dig it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89574 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:28 pm to
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Because women are simultaneously strong and independent and fragile flowers not responsible for their own actions.


From Bull Durham-

Annie: Millie, you've got to stay out of the clubhouse. It'll just get everybody in trouble.

Millie: I got lured.

Annie: You didn't get "lured". Women never get lured. They're too strong and powerful for that. Now say it -- "I didn't get lured and I will take responsibility for my actions".

Millie: I didn't get lured and I will take responsibility for my actions.

Annie: That's better. Right, honey, let's get down to it. How was Ebby Calvin LaLoosh?

Millie: Well, he fricks like he pitches. Sorta all over the place.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24943 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:31 pm to
Did she say no or otherwise indicate non-consent after which he continued the sexual act?

Was she unconscious?

Did he drug her without her knowledge?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then it very well could be rape.

If the answer to all of these questions is no, then it's not rape. Just drunken sex that she now regrets. Just because she got so drunk she can't remember parts of the night, doesn't mean it was rape. That's ridiculous.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:33 pm to
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The only reason he wouldn't be drunk is if he's the biggest pussy in the world? I'd say that going to a party and having the discipline not to get heavily intoxicated is a pretty good trait to have.

in COLLEGE?
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3922 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:33 pm to
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You inferred that out of thin air. Dude's dick was apparently working well enough. 20 years old or not, there are limits to human physical performance. Having no actual evidence one way or another, it is more likely that he was not blackout drunk than that he was.


i have definitely been too drunk to remember doing it. why do you think this is impossible/unlikely? obviously if i'm so drunk i can't stand up, it's hard to pitch the tent. but you can be "blackout" and still function. just about anyone who has gone to college has probably done this many times.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:33 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:33 pm to
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Are you suggesting his ability to get a boner is indicative of his soberness?


Yeah this isn't theory. Like you, I'm a guy with a penis who has done more than his fair share or drinking and boning. I'm 32, so college hookups aren't that damned far in the past, and the rules still pretty much apply in the grown-up world, though obviously we get less sex in our 30s and the women who come home with us aren't curious wilting flowers looking for acceptance in the scene. I can't speak for your body, but enough alcohol to send me in and out of a fugue state is enough to make maintaining an erection difficult, and enough to make the idea of physical exertion somewhat less appealing. Not saying the guy wasn't drunk. I'm saying he probably wasn't so drunk that he couldn't keep the count. Even when I'm drunk it's not hard to spot the people who are obviously much, much drunker than I am.

ETA: "wasn't so drunk that he couldn't keep the count"
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81217 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:34 pm to
I tell you what. If I was a single guy, the last thing I'd be doing is taking home random intoxicated girls I couldn't trust. I keep warning my newly single friend to be fricking careful. It is just too with this shite happening.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79276 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:34 pm to
6 pages in on the OT and not one photo request of her



On the left :kern: The I'd Hit It emoticon might be inappropriate here
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20911 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:34 pm to
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Did she say no or otherwise indicate non-consent after which he continued the sexual act?

Was she unconscious?

Did he drug her without her knowledge?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then it very well could be rape.

If the answer to all of these questions is no, then it's not rape. Just drunken sex that she now regrets. Just because she got so drunk she can't remember parts of the night, doesn't mean it was rape. That's ridiculous.



Actually a lot of schools now have 'yes means yes' policies where in order for the guy to get off the hook, he'll have to prove he got consent prior to sex. AND that she was sober enough to do so. If she got drunk beforehand the school says she can't consent.

It's a brave new world out there.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:36 pm to
I'm 32 as well and I can say with absolute certainty I could be way drunker and still send one home then than I can now. That's not even a question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422891 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:37 pm to
hey i'm 32, too!

not going to talk about my dick, but i figured i'd join in
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:37 pm to
3rd wave feminism has fricked over men so hard, it's now like playing Russian Roulette
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24943 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:38 pm to
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Actually a lot of schools now have 'yes means yes' policies where in order for the guy to get off the hook, he'll have to prove he got consent prior to sex. AND that she was sober enough to do so. If she got drunk beforehand the school says she can't consent.


What the frick? Please sign this contract before we get started. I brought a notary along with me.

Maybe this is why there are so many sex tapes now. Sorry babe, I have to film this for proof I didn't rape you.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:38 pm to
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Sounds great on the surface, but that is a slippery fricking slope.


People need to realize that "slippery slope" is a logical fallacy and isn't valid argument for or against a proposition.

The fact that you said "it's a slippery slope" means you pointed out that your entire argument after that deceleration is a logical fallacy.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29503 posts
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Don't stick your dick in a girl that drunk. It's not that hard.

It usually is, unless whisky dick is involved.
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