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re: Walmart to limit opiod scripts to 7 day supply
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:13 pm to Sao
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:13 pm to Sao
quote:Scruffy usually prescribes 4 or 5 doses, not even days.
No one needs a 30 DS for a tooth extraction. No one.
If a child can transition to Tylenol and Motrin one day post-op, so can every adult out there.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:16 pm to Scruffy
Thumbs up. And I honestly believe because Walmart is Walmart and knows its clientele without admitting it, their intention is to help. Not lose business. Their people of Walmart come anyway.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:36 pm to Sao
Lots of good points on here...and a healthy dose of the usual OT knee jerk anger.
For those of us old enough to remember...there was a time not too long ago when doctors were roundly criticized for not caring enough about patients pain and not doing enough about it. Rules and regulations were changed to ensure patients pain was adequately addressed and pain management properly documented. It was the doctor's fault that we weren't compassionate enough to adequately treat acute and chronic pain. I think the response to that in the past is at least a part of the problem we have today.
Fast forward a couple decades now it's the doctors fault that the whole world is on opioids and we don't care. I totally agree with everyone that people need to learn to live with some discomfort and we use way too many narcotics. Not trying to say otherwise. But the vast majority of docs and practitioners are trying their best to do the right thing. It's not as though we have an infinite array of non narcotic options out there. There are a lot of people out there with legitimate need for long term narcotics - cancer patients to name the most obvious. Passing blanket rules and limiting options usually isn't a good option. As one poster said...maybe Walmart will have exceptions for those people. If so then maybe not such a bad idea.
For those of us old enough to remember...there was a time not too long ago when doctors were roundly criticized for not caring enough about patients pain and not doing enough about it. Rules and regulations were changed to ensure patients pain was adequately addressed and pain management properly documented. It was the doctor's fault that we weren't compassionate enough to adequately treat acute and chronic pain. I think the response to that in the past is at least a part of the problem we have today.
Fast forward a couple decades now it's the doctors fault that the whole world is on opioids and we don't care. I totally agree with everyone that people need to learn to live with some discomfort and we use way too many narcotics. Not trying to say otherwise. But the vast majority of docs and practitioners are trying their best to do the right thing. It's not as though we have an infinite array of non narcotic options out there. There are a lot of people out there with legitimate need for long term narcotics - cancer patients to name the most obvious. Passing blanket rules and limiting options usually isn't a good option. As one poster said...maybe Walmart will have exceptions for those people. If so then maybe not such a bad idea.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:42 pm to el Gaucho
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Please don’t label my cousin. He has a disease
A disease for which opioids are almost never preferred as a treatment.
"As of 2015, no opioid is approved for use in this condition by the FDA. The National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases (NIAMS) in 2014 stated that there was a lack of evidence for opioids for most people. The Association of the Scientific Medical Societies in Germany in 2012 made no recommendation either for or against the use of weak opioids because of the limited amount of scientific research addressing their use in the treatment of FM. They strongly advise against using strong opioids. The Canadian Pain Society in 2012 said that opioids, starting with a weak opioid like tramadol, can be tried but only for people with moderate to severe pain that is not well-controlled by non-opioid painkillers. They discourage the use of strong opioids and only recommend using them while they continue to provide improved pain and functioning."
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:44 pm to EA6B
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A disease for which opioids are almost never preferred as a treatment.
He's just trolling.
He's actually posted that a few times. He's reached the point where he just reposts his old trolls.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:50 pm to nevilletiger79
quote:
So now a walmar pharmacy knows what's better than your doctor
As it relates to pharmacy I’m sure they do, this is a policy decision though. Walmart pharmacists aren’t any different than other pharmacists, they all went through pharmacy school. I’m sure every pharmacist can name horror stories about stuff docs write
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:55 pm to gingerkittie
This is stupid. It's like gas stations putting a $50 limit per transaction at the pump to try to slow down gas consumption.
I'm still going to drive the same amount now people just have to stop more times.
I'm still going to drive the same amount now people just have to stop more times.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:57 pm to GeauxDoc
quote:Lets also not forget how patient evaluations are an important part of medical management now.
For those of us old enough to remember...there was a time not too long ago when doctors were roundly criticized for not caring enough about patients pain and not doing enough about it. Rules and regulations were changed to ensure patients pain was adequately addressed and pain management properly documented. It was the doctor's fault that we weren't compassionate enough to adequately treat acute and chronic pain. I think the response to that in the past is at least a part of the problem we have today.
It’s a fricking catch-22.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:58 pm to MrLarson
quote:It costs Scruffy $25 to fill up.
$50 limit per transaction at the pump
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:05 pm to GeauxDoc
Agreed. The mantra went from “pain is whatever the patient says it is” and the “5th vital sign” to frick treating pain you fricking addict. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back toward the middle.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:07 pm to el Gaucho
quote:Scruffy wishes. Those things are panty droppers.
What do you drive? A Vespa?
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:19 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Those things are panty droppers.
There is only one problem. It's guys panties. 74 has misinformed you.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:22 pm to gingerkittie
Walmart knows more than doctors?
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:54 pm to gingerkittie
This concerns me as a cancer survivor. When I was going through chemo & radiation and my husband was offshore the last thing I could do was go to the drug store every week for my pain meds. Granted I don't use Walmart but I am afraid a precedent is being set. A large number of these drugs were created for cancer patients and the druggies are making it hard for the people who really need them. Oh,and I was on morphine pills for 9 months and once I had the tumor removed I got off of it with no issues with withdrawal.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:10 pm to EA6B
So a government bureaucrat can decide how people can be treated now? I believe my cousin when he says that oxycotton works best for his pain. He has to take like 10 Percocets to get the same relief
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:19 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Lets also not forget how patient evaluations are an important part of medical management now.
Yep. And in some cases provider compensation is linked to those patient satisfaction scores.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:35 pm to MrLarson
quote:
This is stupid. It's like gas stations putting a $50 limit per transaction at the pump to try to slow down gas consumption. I'm still going to drive the same amount now people just have to stop more times.
Bingo
And for those of you in the thread that think everyone that takes the occassional opoid is a 'crackhead", or they need to deal with some discomfort , let me clue you in.
Since 2007 I have been through two knee surgeries, a wrist reconstruction surgery, an ankle surgery, two arthoscopic surgeries on both shoulders and two (Lt and Rt) COMPLETE shoulder replacement surgeries. Add to this an L5-S1 back issue where the disc is practically gone and the vertebrae are nearly touching and you have the formula for virtually constant pain/discomfort.
For this, on a bad day...I'll usually take 1/2 a norco/hydrocone tablet...probably once every two to three weeks. It barely , and I mean BARELY, makes normal life reasonably comfortable.
But because dope-heads, millenial- pu##ies and piss-ants whose arms are sore from video gaming (and/or fapping) I now have to go through hoops to obtain the prescription medicine that allows me to function like a regular person. So F Walmart and anyone who thinks that everyone who uses these medications on a semi-regular basis needs to be helped when in reality they don't have a fricking clue.
Rant over.................and get off my frickin lawn ya bunch of limp-richards.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:51 pm to AUTimbo
quote:
Since 2007 I have been through two knee surgeries, a wrist reconstruction surgery, an ankle surgery, two arthoscopic surgeries on both shoulders and two (Lt and Rt) COMPLETE shoulder replacement surgeries. Add to this an L5-S1 back issue where the disc is practically gone and the vertebrae are nearly touching and you have the formula for virtually constant pain/discomfort.
So are you 500 years old or did you just take really shitty care of your body ?
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