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Walker mayor threatens lawsuit....
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:34 am
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:35 am to WallsAllAroundMe
Been posted already
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:35 am to WallsAllAroundMe
Are we talking about the Berlin wall? You know the one in Germany.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:36 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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OK, How do you all feel about this
I don't think interstates are designed at a 1000 year storm frequency. Could be wrong.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:36 am to WallsAllAroundMe
Meh. That water was going somewhere. It was going to flood them or flood someone else.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:42 am to WallsAllAroundMe
I don't see why they couldn't put weep holes?
Posted on 8/26/16 at 8:44 am to WallsAllAroundMe
quote:and what was it that they did wrong?
the state to admit they were wrong
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:00 am to link
Built a fricking dam. That's what they did wrong. Water should've flowed south instead got pushed east and west.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:01 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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sue the government for not having barriers because a car had crossed over and killed some people
I thought he wanted to sue because of the Sound Barriers....those big walls canceling noise....I guess I misread or misunderstood what he was talking about.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:03 am to link
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and what was it that they did wrong?
Well they certainly didn't think this out very well:
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:29 am to terd ferguson
I have mixed feelings I guess. I mean that photo looks bad. Real bad. And it's possible that people in the area who only got about 2-3' or less may not have flooded without the barrier..
But at the same time, the interstate was not built at a random elevation. It is not designed for "water to flow south over it." It's set at an elevation not to be overtopped at all, so I'm sure the barrier wall acting as a dam for water was never considered. It is literally impossible to design all roads for a 500-1000 year design storm. So what's the alternative? No interstates? No modern infrastructure?
I feel for the people who got fricked by this, but if it wasn't them, it would have been someone else to the south. Just sucks all around.
But at the same time, the interstate was not built at a random elevation. It is not designed for "water to flow south over it." It's set at an elevation not to be overtopped at all, so I'm sure the barrier wall acting as a dam for water was never considered. It is literally impossible to design all roads for a 500-1000 year design storm. So what's the alternative? No interstates? No modern infrastructure?
I feel for the people who got fricked by this, but if it wasn't them, it would have been someone else to the south. Just sucks all around.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:37 am to WallsAllAroundMe
Slightly off point since wall divider is there but,
The wall barrier wall was really put there to stop the rubbernecking of accidents that occur on the other side of interstate and create more accidents / backups on the opposite side.
The 3 cable system is way cheaper and stops accidents from crossing lanes, but wouldn't stop rubber necking. It would however allow water to get through.
The wall barrier wall was really put there to stop the rubbernecking of accidents that occur on the other side of interstate and create more accidents / backups on the opposite side.
The 3 cable system is way cheaper and stops accidents from crossing lanes, but wouldn't stop rubber necking. It would however allow water to get through.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:41 am to tigers win2
one would think someone would have the foresight to put some grates at the bottom of that wall.. if only to help collected rain water move.
im not a civil engineer but that seems like common sense, 100 year flood or not
im not a civil engineer but that seems like common sense, 100 year flood or not
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:41 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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OK, How do you all feel about this? I remember a year or two ago that some people tried to sue the government for not having barriers because a car had crossed over and killed some people in a head on collision. Now, they put the barriers up and they are still possibly getting sued? Or the mayor just wants more FEMA money and the state to admit they were wrong and he will drop the threat of lawsuit.
He apparently had this issue before the flood.
He has a legit claim
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:44 am to TigerBait1127
quite sure no fema flood maps had taken into consideration man made I-12 dam. its a legit screw up imo.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:50 am to Chad504boy
He has a very legit claim IMO. That barrier wall that stretches from DS all the way to Satsuma is the reason that Walker between I-12 and 190 got 4 to 5 feet of water.
I know people all up in that section of Walker. Many of them told me that the water had actually started going down on Saturday... by Saturday night they were being evacuated by boat. The water from the Amite in DS rode that wall all the way into Walker and was the major contributing factor in how high the water got in that stretch.
ETA - it's also the reason Juban got hit so hard
I know people all up in that section of Walker. Many of them told me that the water had actually started going down on Saturday... by Saturday night they were being evacuated by boat. The water from the Amite in DS rode that wall all the way into Walker and was the major contributing factor in how high the water got in that stretch.
ETA - it's also the reason Juban got hit so hard
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:53 am to WallsAllAroundMe
That wall saved my brother's house. If he got flooded he wouldn't have been able to help me all of last week and I'd still be gutting my house. The wall issue is a catch 22.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 9:54 am to PhiTiger1764
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I don't think interstates are designed at a 1000 year storm frequency. Could be wrong.
They are not... just as buildings aren't designed for F5 tornados.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:00 am to gmrkr5
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one would think someone would have the foresight to put some grates at the bottom of that wall.. if only to help collected rain water move.
im not a civil engineer but that seems like common sense, 100 year flood or not
It does have holes to allow for drainage, but no amount of "grates" would have helped much. Even if there wasn't a wall there is still the interstate and elevated overpasses there which is still higher than most of the land there, so there still would have been flooding, although likely not as bad.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:03 am to BoostAddict
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It does have holes to allow for drainage
No it doesn't. Each section has a very narrow slit between them... but there aren't drainage holes.
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