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re: Walker mayor threatens lawsuit....
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:07 am to BoostAddict
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:07 am to BoostAddict
There are drains and grates for a short distance, but nothing IN the wall to allow water to pass through.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:27 am to WallsAllAroundMe
It's like a 6 foot wall if not taller.
They also provided ample warning that this was a flooding hazard. It's not like this all just happened and they are crying about it now. Once they broke the wall water that sat for days was completely gone in 2 freakin hours.
They also provided ample warning that this was a flooding hazard. It's not like this all just happened and they are crying about it now. Once they broke the wall water that sat for days was completely gone in 2 freakin hours.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:45 am to BoostAddict
quote:people are retarded. they got 5 feet of water, well if the wall wasnt there they still would have got 3 feet as well are 20k more homes that were saved from the barrier.
It does have holes to allow for drainage, but no amount of "grates" would have helped much. Even if there wasn't a wall there is still the interstate and elevated overpasses there which is still higher than most of the land there, so there still would have been flooding, although likely not as bad.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:45 am to Catman88
DP
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:46 am to Catman88
quote:have you looked at the plans?
There are zero holes.
because this is a typical jersey barrier.

Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:49 am to CarRamrod
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they got 5 feet of water, well if the wall wasnt there they still would have got 3 feet
There were plenty of homes that wouldn't have gotten any water. Some of the places around there (including my parents) were high enough that they would have been spared. Their house sits on a solid concrete slab about 3.5 feet off the ground... they got almost 2 feet of water inside the house.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:51 am to terd ferguson
That pic sure makes me wonder how well a similiar east-west dam named the Darlington Reservoir would have worked to lower flood levels.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:52 am to CarRamrod
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because this is a typical jersey barrier.
It's not jersey barriers on I-12. Jersey barriers have that drainage pocket due them being portable (forklift lifting points).
The barriers on I-12 are permanent and were built in place. They framed them up with wire and then a machine forms the concrete over top. That is a solid concrete wall... not a jersey barrier.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:52 am to Muice
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FOR ANCHOR RODS
i guess you missed the whole "drainage pockets"
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:53 am to CarRamrod
Yeah, I completely did. Whoops
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:54 am to CarRamrod
There are no drainage pockets. Each section was built where it stands and is attached to the concrete median. There is a tiny slit between each section but they did not account for drainage.


This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:56 am to terd ferguson
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ersey barriers have that drainage pocket due them being portable (forklift lifting points).
I dont know if they have drain pockets or not, I didnt design that. Im just pointing out a lot of misnomers people are throwing around here.
while im att it i would probably guess your parents slabe is not a 3.5' thick slab, thats a lot of money to waste on concrete. Most likely it is the normal 6-8" slab with a 4' skirt on a raised bed of soil. just saying.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:57 am to terd ferguson
quote:well there you go......... When detailing roads, you dont account for a 500+ year flood event. according to models i would bet that area should have never gotten water(BTW i have not looked at the models)
There is a tiny slit between each section but they did not account for drainage.
And IMO the design flaw is not the drainage holes in the barrier, but there was no drainage culverts under the raised interstate portion. That is the design flaw. Anytime a road is raised with fill proper culverts should be installed to prevent ponding.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 11:00 am
Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:58 am to CarRamrod
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I dont know if they have drain pockets or not, I didnt design that. Im just pointing out a lot of misnomers people are throwing around here.
Well I'm pointing out that they don't have any drainage built-in.
Here's a picture that pretty much sums it up:
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Most likely it is the normal 6-8" slab with a 4' skirt on a raised bed of soil. just saying.
It's not... just saying.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:01 am to terd ferguson
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It's not... just saying.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:03 am to terd ferguson
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Here's a picture that pretty much sums it up:
instead of sandbags, people just need to put drainage pockets outside to keep the water out.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:05 am to junkfunky
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That wall saved my brother's house. If he got flooded he wouldn't have been able to help me all of last week and I'd still be gutting my house. The wall issue is a catch 22.
Many more homes and businesses were north of I-12. Would have been better to allow the water to flow across interstate and flood homes there.
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