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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:05 am to Salmon
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:05 am to Salmon
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especially after she most certainly explained the situation to him
I'm sure by that point he had already made up his mind. Some people will never admit they are wrong and trying to do so will only strengthen their opposition (*cough* lnchbox)
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:05 am to Salmon
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I'm just trying to understand what beliefs he could have to deny her the medicine, especially after she most certainly explained the situation to him
There is some pretty crazy beliefs out there. At least in my opinion. I know that some believe that for a completely unviable ectopic (tubular) pregnancy, it is perfectly fine to remove the tube and terminate the pregnancy, but to take a medicine to directly pass the pregnancy is morally wrong. Because by removing the tube, you aren't directly terminating the pregnancy, it's just a by-product. But a by-product that was the sole intention of the procedure.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:07 am to Lsuhack1
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hipa violation.
What’s hipa?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:07 am to shawnlsu
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If he wants to pick and choose what meds people take, he should have became a DOCTOR. Pharmacists shouldn't be able to intervene in anyone's meds unless the combination they are prescribed is dangerous.
Unfortunately, that is exactly what pharmacists are charged with. State DEAs see pharmacists as a cog in the wheel of fighting opiate addiction and expect them to be the judge and jury in dispensing drugs.
Have you seen the latest lawsuits against all of the doctors for overprescribing opiates? No? Me neither. However, counties across the country are suing Walgreens, CVS, and PBMs for opiate abuse. If they are just supposed to dispense the damn drug, why are they the ones being sued?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:10 am to TH03
He means hippo, like he's being a hippocrite.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:10 am to shawnlsu
Oh look, this argument again.
Pharmacists are in fact legally obligated to not fill prescriptions they don't clinically agree with. That is their job. If they fill something harmful, they can be sued/disciplined just like an MD.
This particular instance is dumb because obviously the pharmacist didnt understand the drug he was being requested to dispense.
Pharmacists are in fact legally obligated to not fill prescriptions they don't clinically agree with. That is their job. If they fill something harmful, they can be sued/disciplined just like an MD.
This particular instance is dumb because obviously the pharmacist didnt understand the drug he was being requested to dispense.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:10 am to Displaced
Oh okay. Man, he was way off.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:27 am to lsunurse
Sounds like it worked out. The Walgreen's policy and Arizona law was followed. Instill don't understand the pharmacist's issue if the fetus was already dead. Probably more to the story.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:31 am to Jake88
Walgreens policy wasn't followed. He is required to come up with an alternative solution immediately. That is where Walgreens could say he did not follow policy.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:33 am to Boss
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He is required to come up with an alternative solution immediately. That is where Walgreens could say he did not follow policy.
You missed the part where he sent it to another pharmacy and it was filled 20 minutes later.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:35 am to Tiguar
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Oh look, this argument again.
Pharmacists are in fact legally obligated to not fill prescriptions they don't clinically agree with.
CLINICALLY, which is the exact argument I made.
IDGAF about his moral conviction if my Dr prescribed it, then dispense it, clown.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:38 am to Boss
quote:Because Walgreen's and CVS are huge corporations with money. That all those lawsuits are about, money. Nobody actually cares about the overprescription beyond it being a vein to cash.
If they are just supposed to dispense the damn drug, why are they the ones being sued?
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:39 am to TH03
I feel there could very well be more to the story.
I feel for the woman...but also realize that she could have very well gotten so upset..that she didn't hear/fully grasp that the pharmacist was sending this to another location.
She clearly doesn't understand how a pharmacy works. She mentions in the article that there were 2 other people working that should have filled it. Those were likely pharmacy techs. And a store manager isn't a pharmacist so no way can they fill it. I would guess most Walgreen locations only have 1 pharmacist on duty. Meaning there was physically no one else available at that location to fill it.
I feel for the woman...but also realize that she could have very well gotten so upset..that she didn't hear/fully grasp that the pharmacist was sending this to another location.
She clearly doesn't understand how a pharmacy works. She mentions in the article that there were 2 other people working that should have filled it. Those were likely pharmacy techs. And a store manager isn't a pharmacist so no way can they fill it. I would guess most Walgreen locations only have 1 pharmacist on duty. Meaning there was physically no one else available at that location to fill it.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:40 am to Jake88
People in here seem to think the pharmacist is capable of performing an ultrasound to verify the woman's story. This situation is clearly sad and tragic for her, but he has no way of know if she's telling the truth or not. This is such a non story.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:41 am to The Pirate King
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You celebrate abortions on this board frequently.
Unless I am wrong, the church doesnt advocate carrying a dead stillborn baby to term...
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:42 am to lsunurse
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but also realize that she could have very well gotten so upset..that she didn't hear/fully grasp that the pharmacist was sending this to another location.
I think this is likely true.
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I would guess most Walgreen locations only have 1 pharmacist on duty.
They do and most Walgreens are severely understaffed. Store managers are back there helping most days, but they can’t overrule the pharmacist.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:42 am to shawnlsu
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IDGAF about his moral conviction if my Dr prescribed it, then dispense it, clown.
Pharmacists are not medicine vending machines.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:44 am to EarlyCuyler3
I was wondering about what was communicated to him too.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:44 am to TH03
This woman is getting her 15 minutes...she is now about to be on CNN telling her story.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:47 am to Scruffy
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Pharmacists should absolutely retain the ability to reject or deny any prescription that they see fit, and it would be absolutely asinine to change that based on one dumbass who didn’t even follow his employer’s own protocols.
Thats fair. Perhaps it will be difficult for this pharmacist to find customers when the customers find out he may find their condition disagreeable and wont serve them.
That free market works both ways.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 8:48 am
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