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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:48 am to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:48 am to
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our policy allows pharmacists to step away from filling a prescription for which they have a moral objection.


From the article itself. Try again.

And follows with this:
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At the same time, they are also required to refer the prescription to another pharmacist or manager on duty to meet the patient's needs in a timely manner.


which she claims didn't happen. She says she wasn't referred to another pharmacist until the next day after she contacted Walgreens corporate. If her account is true the guy is probably gone.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141985 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:50 am to
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Good grief. Fine. It was abortion.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99045 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:52 am to
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From the article itself. Try again.


Also from the article:

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At the same time, they are also required to refer the prescription to another pharmacist or manager on duty to meet the patient's needs in a timely manner.


Where he likely fricked himself was when he didn’t pass things off in a timely manner to someone else on duty to fill the prescription. He doesn’t own the pharmacy. He should’ve followed the rest of the procedure.

From a moral perspective, he’s a dick.
Posted by Merck
Tuscaloosa
Member since Nov 2009
1693 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:54 am to
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Pharmacist doesn't have her medical records in front of him. All he has is what she's saying. So no, you're still clueless.


And that's the problem. He assumed it was for an abortion instead of simply minding his own fricking business and just doing his job. Maybe they're should be a law against pharmacists playing doctor and deciding on their own whether someone actually needs the medicine they've been prescribed.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35494 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:59 am to
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He has the right to deny it. That's the end of the story.

quote:

At the same time, they are also required to refer the prescription to another pharmacist or manager on duty to meet the patient's needs in a timely manner.


That's the end of the story.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99045 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:05 am to
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She says she wasn't referred to another pharmacist until the next day after she contacted Walgreens corporate.


And honestly, the reason the timely manner portion of that rule is in place is because of issues like this. If she’s carrying a dead fetus and her body doesn’t naturally miscarry, she could be at risk for infection.
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:09 am to
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Evidently you don't. A pharmacist can refuse to fill a prescription if they choose. They're not going to fire a PharmD over this. This board I swear.



If the situation makes national news and a majority of reasonable people disagree with the way that the pharmacist behaved, they damn well will.

The free market of opinion is more powerful than you realize.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72117 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:09 am to
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So as an MD, you support Rx morality over Medical ethics.
I support not forcing an individual to perform their job against their will.

I find that absolutely immoral.

Do I agree with the pharmacist? Hell no, but I won’t throw the baby out with the bath water because I disagree with a single pharmacist’s views on morality.

That would be moronic.

ETA:

It also appears that the pharmacist didn’t follow their own protocols, so he should be punished by Walgreen’s for that.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:11 am
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 1:58 am to
sounds like a situation in which the private market provides an adequate correction and the situation solves itself.

And thankfully, probably across the street from Walgreens, exists another pharmacy that this lady could go get her prescription filled the same day.

Walgreens, not liking the bad publicity from this pharmacist’s stupid little stunt, will probably try to find a way to fire the pharmacist.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 7:04 am
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11090 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:30 am to
Don’t do your job = lose your job. Maybe he shouldn’t have gone into the prescription filling biz.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:45 am to
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I support not forcing an individual to perform their job against their will.

I find that absolutely immoral.

Do I agree with the pharmacist? Hell no, but I won’t throw the baby out with the bath water because I disagree with a single pharmacist’s views on morality.

Scruffy posting in the first person
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42483 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:22 am to
Then don't take a job at a place where you know you will be filling prescriptions that go against your morals. The pharmacist needs to be fired immediately
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 3:42 am to
Member when people said NFL players shouldn't protest while they were on the clock?

I member.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72117 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:20 am to
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Then don't take a job at a place where you know you will be filling prescriptions that go against your morals
Well, that is every pharmacy.

Do you support the woman’s proposal that pharmacists should be forced to fill every prescription that doctors write?

If so, that is stupid.

If not, do you want them to pass a law that says that they can’t reject prescriptions based on religious or personal reasons?

That is what Scruffy opposes.

Pharmacists should absolutely retain the ability to reject or deny any prescription that they see fit, and it would be absolutely asinine to change that based on one dumbass who didn’t even follow his employer’s own protocols.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35494 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:38 am to
apologies to Scruffy. I had a few drinks last night.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72117 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:44 am to
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Arteaga filed a complaint with the Arizona State Board of Pharmacy. And, she wants a law in place that would require pharmacies to fill prescriptions approved by doctors.

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I remember when you were a decent poster. It's been a couple years.
There was a time Scruffy was thought of as decent?!

That’s touching.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 4:46 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35494 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:46 am to
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This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72117 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:46 am to
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what a nutjob
Agreed.

So, is Scruffy still a shitty poster?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35494 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:49 am to
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This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71104 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 5:57 am to
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What ethical beliefs would force a woman to carry a dead fetus to term?

Sick frick.


In fairness, he didn't know that.

Even so, he shouldn't be working at Walgreen's. Let him open his own pharmacy and post a notice that he doesn't stock certain drugs.
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