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re: Waitress stiffed on $735 takeout order, then fired for calling out customer on FB

Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165114 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:07 pm to
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if you don't want it to be that way, then change. nobody is holding a proverbial gun to your head to hand over money that you are in no way contractually obligated to provide. Before you even start, eat a dick with the "social contract" talk. Not my problem.

If you frequent an establishment and tip poorly you can expect poor service

Don't complain when people treat you like the cheap arse that you are
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96492 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:07 pm to
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That's almost never the case, as I explained earlier the vast majority of the time it's just regular servers taking these orders and they just have to catch the phone and take care of it all on top of everything else they are doing. Most places don't have a dedicated take out person.


Define most places because ive worked at several and they did have dedicated takeout girls/guys.

Answer me this...do you think if she had gotten a tip for that takeout order she boxed up she would have shared it with the cooks who did way more work on the order than she did?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30518 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:08 pm to
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because the consuming public allows it to be that way if you don't want it to be that way, then change. nobody is holding a proverbial gun to your head to hand over money that you are in no way contractually obligated to provide. Before you even start, eat a dick with the "social contract" talk. Not my problem.


Thinking that stiffing a server is you being part of some kind of movement is just being a delusional douche.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7562 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:10 pm to
Church was wrong. I always give a 10% tip on takeouts
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
26845 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:12 pm to
There is so much wrong with this story.

1) the bitch is dumb for complaining to the church about not receiving a tip. That will get you fired anywhere.
2) the church is dumb for not leaving atleast $10 or something on a to go order that massive.
3) the church doesnt seem very “churchy” for accepting the entire $735 back just because some idiot (yoder) complained to them considering the church still got their food.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30518 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Define most places because ive worked at several and they did have dedicated takeout girls/guys.


Have no idea, 51%? If the bartender doesn't take the order which is what happens alot of times then it falls on a server. I've worked at plenty of restaurants and I've never seen a dedicated takeout person (other than a bartender if you want to count them as such).


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Answer me this...do you think if she had gotten a tip for that takeout order she boxed up she would have shared it with the cooks who did way more work on the order than she did?


No unless they have some sort of tip sharing thing going on. They didn't have to give up tables so that they can take care of a $700 to go order for two hours though either.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137770 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:13 pm to
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If you frequent an establishment and tip poorly you can expect poor service

i live in the 4th largest city in America

i don't frequent any place
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165114 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:15 pm to
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i live in the 4th largest city in America

i don't frequent any place



People live in larger cities than you that are regulars at places like happy hour bars

Just sayin
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96492 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:22 pm to
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They didn't have to give up tables so that they can take care of a $700 to go order for two hours though either.


Two hours?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59822 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:24 pm to
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i live in the 4th largest city in America

i don't frequent any place


Odd. I live in NYC, and there are a few places that I frequent on occasion.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
89751 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Church was wrong. I always give a 10% tip on takeouts


The only hard day was yesterday!

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:34 pm to
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What was the service provided that deserved a tip?


this ^^^^^^

so many people thing every thing you do requires tipping someone just for doing their damn job

tips are "gratuities" for extra special services above and beyond the norm that is already required of you.

40% of the things and situations people think requires tipping doesnt, its just the guilt culture making people think everyone needs to tip for everything.

i argued with people just the other day who insisted you are supposed to tip and all you can eat buffets because the bus boy picks up your plates. a tip isnt required there but i still do because they dont hardly get paid but i do it to be nice if they are friendly and nice but they provide no service at all for me beyond just doing their job. i do not do it because i believe its a required thing, its not.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30518 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Two hours?



Could easily be the case.

30 min to an hour to take the whole order and ring it in. If it's 25 orders (all of which are modified this was or that I'm sure) to be read off to you, write it down, read it back, ring it in. Takes a long time.

30 min to get it ready. Packaging salads. Condiments. Checking it over. Etc.

If all paying separate (especially all cash), another 30 min to check them out.


Most of you underestimate what it takes and just think "all my server does is write down my order and fill my coke" but if you ever tried to do it would be shocked at all the things they have to do behind the scenes.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
26845 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:39 pm to
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Two hours?
he’s exaggerating buddy


Edit: nvm davidthegnome has lost his mind.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30518 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:41 pm to
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tips are "gratuities" for extra special services above and beyond the norm that is already required of you.



Not in restaurant service. The tip is their pay. They do receive a small amount of pay otherwise but it doesn't amount to anything.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30518 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:41 pm to
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he’s exaggerating buddy



Nope
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137770 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

I frequent on occasion
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
43277 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Answer me this...do you think if she had gotten a tip for that takeout order she boxed up


You are belittling what she did. It was not one box with a plastic spork packet. It was 25 steak dinners and 25 chicken dinners, with all the sides, fixings and accoutrements. She was making her small waitress hourly, plus tips.

The Church chose to send The Rainman, who had no idea about eating out in public, to pick up the food. She worked like a pack mule to get their order taken, checked, packed up, and delivered to the vehicle. For this, they are supposed to tip her. They did not.

This set into motion the unfortunate chain of events that led to her losing her job. Blame it on the Rain, man.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

i live in the 4th largest city in America

i don't frequent any place


Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
26845 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:56 pm to
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DavidTheGnome
for the record, i bartended in college and a little bit beyond. I am probably the 5% of the OT that actually understands what its like to be stiffed. With that said, it doesnt take 2 hours to box up some food David...

When i bartended, I did to-go orders. I was cool with 5% on a to go order tbh. What would piss me off was when Id get, say, 5% on providing service at the bar for someones entire meal. That shite used to drive me up a wall.

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