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Vlogging Through History's YouTube series on Ulysses S. Grant's Vicksburg Campaign

Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:26 pm
In honor of Ulysses S. Grant's newly minted promotion to General of the Armies, I thought this was a great moment to unleash Vlogging Through History's excellent series on what was inarguably the greatest military campaign of the American Civil War: Vicksburg.

Episode 01 - Early Failures
Episode 02 - Grant's Bold Plan
Episode 03 - Grand Gulf
Episode 04 - The Battle of Port Gibson
Episode 05 - The Battle of Raymond
Episode 06 - Champion Hill Battlefield
Episode 07 - Vicksburg: The Assaults
Episode 08 - The Siege of Vicksburg
Episode 09 - The Battlefield Today
Episode 10 - The Dead of Vicksburg

Once you watch this series you will see once and for all just how brilliant of a general Ulysses S. Grant was and why one could rightfully call him the greatest battlefield commander in U.S. history.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:31 pm to
Given how bad the first part of that campaign went he’s lucky he didn’t get fired.

Can you imagine what Lincoln was hearing up in DC as he was stuck in the delta trying to dig canals for months only to have to back track?
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
9691 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:33 pm to
Fun fact. The city of Vicksburg did not celebrate July 4th again until after WW2
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53022 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 2:40 pm to
How come they never mention the camp where grant and Lincoln held all the southern prisoners and worked them to death and executed them? Bawschwitz has almost been forgotten by history
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Can you imagine what Lincoln was hearing up in DC as he was stuck in the delta trying to dig canals for months only to have to back track?



He was hearing all kinds of shite. It's why Lincoln sent a journalist down to the front to spy on Grant to see if he was worthy of command. Said journalist ended up becoming one of Grant's strongest supports.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64628 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:21 pm to
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inarguably the greatest military campaign of the American Civil War: Vicksburg.


Jackson’s Valley Campaign > Vicksburg
(And it’s not really even close)

quote:

Employing audacity and rapid, unpredictable movements on interior lines, Jackson's 17,000 men marched 646 miles (1,040 km) in 48 days and won several minor battles as they successfully engaged three Union armies (52,000 men), preventing them from reinforcing the Union offensive against Richmond.

LINK



From a purely military standpoint, free of bias and the prism of politics, The Valley Campaign was far and away the most brilliant campaign of the Civil War, and perhaps the greatest in American history.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:35 pm to
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From a purely military standpoint, free of bias and the prism of politics, The Valley Campaign was far and away the most brilliant campaign of the Civil War, and perhaps the greatest in American history.



Incorrect. It satisfied a strategic objective to be sure, but the Valley Campaign didn't do nearly as much as the Vicksburg Campaign in terms of winning the war. Jackson merely tied down an entire army and prevented it from reinforcing McClellan on the Peninsula (not that he would have done anything with the extra men anyway given his caution) by playing on the Lincoln administration's fears that a Confederate force would use the Shenandoah Valley as a backdoor to take Washington.

Grant captured an entire army, gained control of the entire Mississippi River, and split the Confederacy in two. His accomplishments in the Vicksburg campaign far outweigh what Jackson managed to achieve in the Valley.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 3:36 pm
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:36 pm to
The Gibraltar of the South
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 3:37 pm to
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Given how bad the first part of that campaign went he’s lucky he didn’t get fired.


He was lucky he didn't die. Making it across the mighty Mississippi was never a given back in those days, even on a boat.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:01 pm to
The Vicksburg battlefield is one of the greatest U.S. military sites I have ever seen. I rank it right up there with Gettysburg and Normandy.
Posted by Yammie250F
Member since Jul 2010
904 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:31 pm to
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The Vicksburg battlefield is one of the greatest U.S. military sites I have ever seen. I rank it right up there with Gettysburg and Normandy.



I went to visit it a few years ago. Very cool. Was a big area but when you were on say the confederate line and you look over and see where the union line was it looked like it was right there. Also cool to see where the union troops would dig trenches at night to try and close in on the confederate fortress' because it was only open field between them if they did a direct assault. Would love to go back again but this time with a guide so I could understand everything better.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20281 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:40 pm to
His videos on the European battlefields were good too
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35501 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Bawschwitz has almost been forgotten by history
You've been sitting on this one haven't you?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142072 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 4:58 pm to
Bookmarking this and other videos to watch before I devote a day to visiting the V'burg battlefield

But who knows when that will be...
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:41 pm to
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visiting the V'burg battlefield

We just did this last weekend
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:43 pm to
Strongly disagree. Jackson took the tools he was given (which wasn't much) and tied down forces nearly triple his own. We cannot speculate what McClellan would have done, that doesn't negate what Jackson actually accomplished.

Grant was bold, but let's face it, he had the industrial might of the North behind him.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:46 pm to


Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41754 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Grant was bold, but let's face it, he had the industrial might of the North behind him.
yeah, he just kind of waited until the confederate forces fell apart (starved or died of disease) and won
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:02 pm to
Grant sacked a Gibraltar on the Mississippi with defenders and citizens hellbent on its defense.

Jackson was an incredible general and his campaign was impressive, but his success in 1862 came against a less motivated force with poor leadership, and was waged in his home turf.

Grant’s Vicksburg campaign is as creative, risky, and impactful effort as any in the war.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9488 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:30 pm to
Darth, it does no good to debate with OP on the civil war. He is so insanely biased that it’s impossible to have a legit debate with him about it. He is seemingly incapable of giving any credit to Confederate leaders and soldiers.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 6:34 pm
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