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re: Vietnam. Was Hugh Thompson Jr a hero or traitor?

Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by cattus
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:58 am to
I still can't believe that Calley(lives in Florida I think) hasn't been taken out by someone by now.
Posted by arkiebrian
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:59 am to
Great documentary. Most truthful account of Vietnam ever made. Really regret not being able to get my dad's opinion on it he died a couple of months before it came out.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 10:59 am to
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I still can't believe that Calley(lives in Florida I think) hasn't been taken out by someone by now
perhaps a berserk manicurist?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:00 am to
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you brought trump into something he had absolutely nothing to do with


Trump had a very, very strong letter about the heel spurs.

Which heel? Hmmm, I can't remember.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:00 am to
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White Roach


What was Vietnam like? I wasn’t there or even born yet so I can’t say what it’s like to have walked in your shoes. Thanks for your service, though. Long overdue.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:02 am to
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Which heel?
bill clinton
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:04 am to
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I still can't believe that Calley(lives in Florida I think) hasn't been taken out by someone by now.


He lived in Columbus, Ga (Ft. Benning) for years and ran a jewelry store/pawn shop.

Calley was certainly guilty of being a shitty platoon leader, but he was made scapegoat by Big Army for the whole affair.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:07 am to
Anyone who willing went to Nam, or started that shite was a traitor. They should have been hung for forcing our boys to go die there.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:07 am to
It had a lot of Truth but it still had a slant. I prefer Cronkite's.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:10 am to
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Anyone who willing went to Nam, or started that shite was a traitor.


It’s an honor to serve and wear the uniform imo. Why should that generation of Service Members feel guilty for wanting to serve just like their predecessors?

They didn’t get to choose their war.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:11 am to
Totally uncalled for but........we had no idea who our enemy was

I am a witness.....
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:11 am to
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What was Vietnam like? I wasn’t there or even born yet so I can’t say what it’s like to have walked in your shoes. Thanks for your service, though. Long overdue.


I was born when the My Lai incident occurred, but I wasn't there either. Fortunately, my father taught me that murder was wrong from an early age. He was out of the Air Force by then, but I knew William Calley's name (and CPT Ernest Medina's name) as about a ten year old. And I knew it was wrong to round up civilians and kill them.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:12 am to
My beef is not with the guys who were forced, but the people who holed up in Washington, and sent them to an early grave for an unjust war.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15944 posts
Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:12 am to
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Anyone who willing went to Nam,
You obviously didn't live in the Cold War. It's hard to make someone understand that didn't.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:16 am to
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They should have been hung for forcing our boys to go die there.


It’s the Politicians, man. I always shake my head when I hear people say “they died in Vietnam so you can protest”. BS. They died because politicians made a dumb mistake and sent them there. There were people in other countries who protested the war...no one died so they can have freedom to protest. It’s a lame excuse. Politicians made mistake and who paid the prices? Normal Americans, families to lost their sons, civilians in Vietnam. Heck, there are still vietnamese born of defects today because of agent orange.
Posted by CajunSoldier225
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:18 am to
I’m not arguing that the murder of innocent civilians is right. Anyone who believes that it is is certifiably insane.

Didn’t mean to seem like I was baiting you. Sorry if I came across that way. This is a pretty deep and touchy subject for Christmas Eve tbh.
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:25 am to
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Anyone who willing went to Nam, or started that shite was a traitor. They should have been hung for forcing our boys to go die there.


You young man had wrote the dumbest thing I read today and have no idea what was going down in the 1960's-1970's.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:27 am to
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My beef is not with the guys who were forced, but the people who holed up in Washington, and sent them to an early grave for an unjust war.


Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara are the people you want to talk to. Those frickers lied to Congress and the public. They ignored the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Johnson was much more concerned with winning the '64 election and passing his Great Society legislation in '65, than making an informed decision on Vietnam.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:30 am to
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Normal Americans, families to lost their sons, civilians in Vietnam. Heck, there are still vietnamese born of defects today because of agent orange.


My oldest brother died from Agent Orange. Today is his birthday and would of been 69. Died at 40.

Oh, his daughter is laying up in a hospital covered in cancer right now that has a very good chance that my brother had passed on.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 11:32 am
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/24/17 at 11:47 am to
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Was Hugh a hero or traitor?


A hero. He stopped the commission of a war crime atrocity. The fact that hundreds of Vietnamese civilians were murdered by American troops at My Lai has never been in question. And FYI, Lt. Calley was convicted in a court-martial of murdering 22 Vietnamese civilians.

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