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re: Video of Sandra Bland (who went on to commit suicide) arrest released
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:21 am to TigerHam85
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:21 am to TigerHam85
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He may have had asthma and couldn't be around second hand smoke, so he politely asked her to put out her cigarette.
Is that seriously going to be your argument? She was smoking in her own car, which is not illegal. He asked her politely to put it out and she questioned why she had to put out a cigarette in her own vehicle. That's when he got pissed that she was talking back and went on his power trip.
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:25 am to TexasTiger1984
I'm not arguing anything. I'm simply waiting for some sales person to bring me donuts or kolaches and throwing out potential scenarios.
You seem to be the upset one.
You seem to be the upset one.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:25 am to TexasTiger1984
It's a systemic problem., it's how most cops behave, it's how they're trained and how they see civilians. That's just the way it is, and that is the entire problem. That video is a text book example of where a cop could have easily de-escalated or ignored a situation (cigarette), but chose the opposite. That happens hundreds, maybe thousands of times a day. THAT video shows the real problem. It's a lack of empathy for civilians and the view that police officers have that they are authoritarian occupying force.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:25 am to russpot
1) she didn't stop at the right turn, so he had the right to pull her over (and that's probably what he should have said)
2) it was a dick move to pull her over for not putting a turn signal on when moving over
3) it's against the law to smoke in your car?
4) he didn't establish why she was being arrested
I'm going with the cop being in the wrong.
However I was pulled over last year for the same thing, not putting a signal on to get out of the way. The cop asked for me and my brother's licenses, which may be illegal anyways. We both consented and he let us go on our way.
In regard to the woman, it wouldn't surprise me that she killed herself to become a "victim", thus provoking another uproar over police brutality.
the cop should be suspended at the minimum, and a close look at what happened in the jail cell.
2) it was a dick move to pull her over for not putting a turn signal on when moving over
3) it's against the law to smoke in your car?
4) he didn't establish why she was being arrested
I'm going with the cop being in the wrong.
However I was pulled over last year for the same thing, not putting a signal on to get out of the way. The cop asked for me and my brother's licenses, which may be illegal anyways. We both consented and he let us go on our way.
In regard to the woman, it wouldn't surprise me that she killed herself to become a "victim", thus provoking another uproar over police brutality.
the cop should be suspended at the minimum, and a close look at what happened in the jail cell.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 7:27 am
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:29 am to lsufan112001
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You seem to be the upset one.
Yea i guess I am b/c that video just really pisses me off.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:29 am to lsufan112001
quote:Uhh wow.
In regard to the woman, it wouldn't surprise me that she killed herself to become a "victim", thus provoking another uproar over police brutality.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:30 am to TexasTiger1984
I believe that video should be showed to civilians and explained that's not how to treat a law enforcement officer. He was a nice guy, until the woman disrespected him.
Had she put out her cigarette, no story.
You people and your power trips. Abide the law enforcement officer and his commands and you will be on your way with no incident.
Had she put out her cigarette, no story.
You people and your power trips. Abide the law enforcement officer and his commands and you will be on your way with no incident.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:32 am to TigerHam85
Had she put out her cigarette, no story
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is it a law that she can't smoke in her car?
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is it a law that she can't smoke in her car?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:32 am to lsufan112001
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In regard to the woman, it wouldn't surprise me that she killed herself to become a "victim", thus provoking another uproar over police brutality.
She did have videos talking about how black people are mistreated and aren't giving the same opportunities and talking about police brutality, so this is a possibility, no doubt.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:33 am to lsufan112001
The officer asked her to put out her cigarette. Regardless of if its against the law or not, he asked. Had she done it, things would have been different.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:33 am to TigerHam85
I don't disagree that if she put her cig out there would have been no story.
But the fact is that she didn't have to. It's not against the law to smoke.
Not sure what you don't get about that?
But the fact is that she didn't have to. It's not against the law to smoke.
Not sure what you don't get about that?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:35 am to TigerHam85
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Regardless of if its against the law or not, he asked
He asked...and she declined. Then he went on his power trip.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:37 am to TigerHam85
I haven't read the whole thread. But it is not in the cops realm of power to have someone put out a cigarette. She had every right to keep smoking.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:38 am to cas4t
But according to TigerHam you have to do whatever the cop says (regardless of whether or not its a lawful order), just because he's a cop.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:40 am to TexasTiger1984
Oh no, I get it. I'm just stating that individuals that think "well, it's not illegal so I don't have to do it" seem to be the ones always in this situation.
There's no video of an officer saying "ma'am please put out your cigarette" then she does and he drags her out of the car.
He is in control. He has the weapon, he has the cuffs and he has the law on his side.
There's no video of an officer saying "ma'am please put out your cigarette" then she does and he drags her out of the car.
He is in control. He has the weapon, he has the cuffs and he has the law on his side.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:41 am to TexasTiger1984
No no, I never said you had to do any of this. It's simply in your best interest. I don't know how long it's going to take for you people to understand that.
Kolaches are here!!!
Kolaches are here!!!
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:41 am to TigerHam85
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Had she done it, things would have been different.
Had he not dragged her out of the car, she wouldn't be dead.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:41 am to TigerHam85
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You people and your power trips. Abide the law enforcement officer and his commands and you will be on your way with no incident.
Or still get shot in the leg after politely obeying cop
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:42 am to TigerHam85
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He is in control. He has the weapon, he has the cuffs and he has the law on his side.
That's exactly the us vs. them mentality that I was referring to. And the law was not on his side in this case (pulling her out of the vehicle for not putting out the cig).
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:42 am to TigerHam85
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You people and your power trips. Abide the law enforcement officer and his commands and you will be on your way with no incident.
Man, cops aren't all powerful. They aren't judges and this isn't a courtroom. Is it a good idea to listen to them? Sure. Should someone feel obligated to listen to a cop when they ask you to stop doing something that is your right? No.
Unless you're asking me to stop doing something against the law, then frick your command. I'm an adult. If I wanna smoke a cigarette I will.
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