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re: Veterinarians and suicide
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:30 am to Janky
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:30 am to Janky
It's one of the questions they ask in your interview for vet school. 70-80k is on the high end.
Out of school, you arent making much relative to your cost of schooling
Owner of the practice is doing well
Out of school, you arent making much relative to your cost of schooling
Owner of the practice is doing well
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:33 am to Janky
Don’t know what a journeyman vet can top out at, but that’s a terrible ROI.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:38 am to Jones
Bad thing for vets is practices are becoming more corporate owned so that future potential of making good money is going away. Used to be you worked for an older vet and bought him out when he retired. Now those clinics are getting sold to corporations. There are still plenty of individual owned clinics but getting less and less
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:42 am to EST
Not surprised and never thought Vets made great money. They do it for the love of animals
Most animal surgeries and procedures can be expensive but they aren’t that expensive compared to humans and what doctors make.
My dads open heart surgery was 500k
Most animal surgeries and procedures can be expensive but they aren’t that expensive compared to humans and what doctors make.
My dads open heart surgery was 500k
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:47 am to tilco
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I get fricking livid when people accuse vets of trying to get rich off of people emotions or that “it doesn’t cost me this much at the doctors office”. People are dumb.
My wife is also a vet, and even her own sister, who is a Nurse Anesthetist and makes a lot more money than my wife, complains about her vet bills. It’s obnoxious.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:56 am to dallastiger55
My wife is a Vet and graduated in 2009. Her starting salary here in DFW was $65k. It took until quite a while before she hit 6 figures. She has owned her practice now since 2016 and does pretty good, but we still have students loans and the business loan to deal with so we aren't rolling in liquid cash. The business loan will be paid off in 7 more years so that will help.
It is high stress and long hours at times. People are pieces of shite when you won't treat their animal for free. They say and do things they never would do to a MD. This coupled with constantly being around death are causes for the suicide rate to be higher than normal. Plus the field has been shifting for a while to be female dominated which I think has caused an uptick in the suicide rate. They get more emotionally invested in the job. Plus it can be hard for them to find a spouse as a lot of them are career oriented and some men can't handle that.
Someone mentioned corporations buying up practices and that is correct. It is making it harder for the ones coming out now to get their pay higher. Those corps will offer benefits to try and offset the lower pay, but they make you churn out patients. She has two newer vets working for her and they both have $200k or more in student loans, one went to LSU, the other went to an island school. My wife was lucky to work for an older vet that sold her the practice.
It is high stress and long hours at times. People are pieces of shite when you won't treat their animal for free. They say and do things they never would do to a MD. This coupled with constantly being around death are causes for the suicide rate to be higher than normal. Plus the field has been shifting for a while to be female dominated which I think has caused an uptick in the suicide rate. They get more emotionally invested in the job. Plus it can be hard for them to find a spouse as a lot of them are career oriented and some men can't handle that.
Someone mentioned corporations buying up practices and that is correct. It is making it harder for the ones coming out now to get their pay higher. Those corps will offer benefits to try and offset the lower pay, but they make you churn out patients. She has two newer vets working for her and they both have $200k or more in student loans, one went to LSU, the other went to an island school. My wife was lucky to work for an older vet that sold her the practice.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 6:59 am to celltech1981
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I dated a vet and she had a huge chip on her shoulder about not being an MD. Got pretty annoying, especially when she would try and convince people that being a vet is not a respected profession.
She probably got the, "You're not a real doctor." at some point. But they either didn't own a pet or I bet that they never told their vet that. But there are people out there that realize that being a vet is hard and they've told me that they think that it is a harder profession because the patient cannot give you any information about their problem and when and how it started.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:05 am to dallastiger55
That is definitely why my daughter got into it. She has that love for animals.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:05 am to EST
It's probably because they went into veterinarian school to help out the world and help animals, only to have to put up with the loser public that largely doesn't care shite for pets, plus they don't get the big time pay, plus it's not as glamorous as to having slutty nurses hitting on you all day.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:14 am to EST
My niece is married to a Vet who has his own practice. Socially he’s expected to run with MDs and such but the profit generated by the business is half of a similar-sized MDs practice. He specializes in some arcane animal groups in addition to his dog/cat regular 9-5 gig which helps make him a bit more regional to bird & reptile folk.
He can barter a bit but that can get slippery.
He’s a good dude, my niece is a bit wacky (image that?).
Er kann auch deutsch, was gut ist.
He can barter a bit but that can get slippery.
He’s a good dude, my niece is a bit wacky (image that?).
Er kann auch deutsch, was gut ist.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:36 am to EST
Vet here.
It can be extremely exhausting and easy to get burnt out with what we do. I work 6+, sometimes 7 days per week. The pay is not what u would think. It’s easy to judge from an outside view of how we work, however, it’s not what you think. I probably average 4 hours of sleep per night, because the stress level of different cases and patients wears on you.
It can be extremely exhausting and easy to get burnt out with what we do. I work 6+, sometimes 7 days per week. The pay is not what u would think. It’s easy to judge from an outside view of how we work, however, it’s not what you think. I probably average 4 hours of sleep per night, because the stress level of different cases and patients wears on you.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 7:44 am to tilco
I don't understand people. They choose to have pets rather than children. Pets have a life span of about ten years so you are going to lose your pet(child) every ten years. Suck it up and be tough.
I often go to the vet and there will be little old ladies with old Fefe, so old it can barely walk. She has a debt for past visits and pays from her Social Security each month. So its an economic struggle between people who can't afford to treat their pets and Vets who desperately need the money to pay off a student lawn.
It never ends.
I often go to the vet and there will be little old ladies with old Fefe, so old it can barely walk. She has a debt for past visits and pays from her Social Security each month. So its an economic struggle between people who can't afford to treat their pets and Vets who desperately need the money to pay off a student lawn.
It never ends.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:10 am to Janky
They get to snort Special K
So they have that going for them
So they have that going for them
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:10 am to EST
I always heard Dentists were the highest.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:13 am to EST
I'm good friends with a vet. He believes this is b/c most vets go into vet school b/c they love animals. Then once they're a vet, a good portion of the job is euthanizing animals.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:14 am to Crowley Cajun
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because the patient cannot give you any information about their problem and when and how it started.
Also, you might be seeing a race horse that morning, a house cat next, followed by a bird and a couple of dogs. Then a goat and an iguana.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:16 am to Powerman
It’s not far-fetched at all.
You can end up spending a lot more than that for a serious malady
You can end up spending a lot more than that for a serious malady
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:25 am to Mr Clean
Oh yeah it adds up quick. Hell i spent $400 last time in there. Had yearly work up and shots on two dogs, heart worm prevention and also 3 days of kenneling.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:52 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
quote:Typical dating roster for an Arkansan.
Also, you might be seeing a race horse that morning, a house cat next, followed by a bird and a couple of dogs. Then a goat and an iguana.
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:52 am to Make It Rayne
I know what you're talking about just seeing this with our daughter. She leaves for work around 6:30am and sometimes doesn't get home till 7pm depending on the day with all of the reports.
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