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re: Very close to signing a contract on a new pool. What are the must/not haves to consider

Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Only problem wit Kool Deck
are they still in business?

I guess my company is blocking them or their ISP... i can get to the website from my phone.
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Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90852 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:21 pm to
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you tarded or something?
how do you clean cartridges? buy 2 sets?

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arent you a yankee? cartrage>sand. Sand is the poormans DE.


i had 2 pools; one w/ sand filter one with carts. sand all day, every day and twice on weekends

you want DE? buy a box and dump a cup in the return and it will settle over the sand and filter out more particles.

eta of course backwashing removes it but just like shaving, just put another scoop in after you backwash.
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13620 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:30 pm to
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6. Landscaping budget should be huge. They’re going to destroy everything


A biz friend in Houston told me $250k to make it nice. He'll never have another pool but it was fine when their son was young.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51269 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:43 pm to
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What are the must/not haves to consider


I'd consider dropping 100k on a pool
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:48 pm to
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In S LA it would extend several months.
in SLA it extends the season to basically year round. hell i got in the hot tube when we got 10 inchs of snow. Have you looked into the DIY radiant heating tubes? basically a 2x4 box with hose coiled in it you put on a roof or shed and pump water through. cheaper way to raise the temp than a heater.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:50 pm to
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We added a UV sterilizer to our equipment and it will lighten your chemical load
look at the flow vs wattage you need to UV sterilizers to really work. it might not be as big of deal as you think it is.
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No need for a chiller if you have some shade on your pool
GTFO i love when people come over and when they step in my water in the middle of august it feels like they are getting in a cold tub...
This post was edited on 6/23/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58265 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 3:54 pm to
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how do you clean cartridges? buy 2 sets?

i do have 2 sets. hell my neighbor just buys a new set ever spring... i know because he asked me for the amazon link every year.

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i had 2 pools; one w/ sand filter one with carts. sand all day, every day and twice on weekends
because you are a weenier.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90852 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:10 pm to
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because you are a weenier.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134949 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:11 pm to
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arent you a yankee? cartrage>sand. Sand is the poormans DE.
Sand is better for beach pools. Cartridges otherwise IMO.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11948 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:14 pm to
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No need for a chiller if you have some shade on your pool
GTFO i love when people come over and when they step in my water in the middle of august it feels like they are getting in a cold tub...


My only complaint is we didn't add chiller. We have a shallow water pool. Deepest is like 5 feet. It gets warm in August. But it still feels good at 95* when its 110 outside.

Also our pool guy talked us out of the "side fountains" that shoot water back into the pool. I like the noise they make and that supposedly helps cool it down some.
Posted by Cage Fighter Trainee
Member since Aug 2024
242 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:20 pm to
Lots of good info in this thread. I'm in the "keep it simple" crowd. The previous owners built our pool but we just HAD to renovate it. It had to be re-plumbed since the builder used a flexible PVC which failed - make sure your builder is not using that. I didn't even know that product existed until trying to fix leaks.

Cool Deck or Sundek is an adequate patio surface but I've found from my experience and looking at other pools that the concrete decking will inevitably crack. Make sure the concrete installer lifts/suspends the rebar in the concrete as opposed to letting it sit on the dirt during the pour and basically do nothing. Another option is to do fiber-reinforced concrete to reduce cracking. I did both rebar and FRC. We also went over our concrete with a leathered marble stone and it has been awesome so far. No issues with heat and it looks good. The only negative is that you will immediately be blinded when going outside because it reflects the sun like a frickin mirror.

The pool builder suggested quartzite as the pool finish and we've been happy with that so far. It's only slightly more expensive than plaster and is not supposed to stain or discolor as easily.

I would definitely figure out drainage issues with the new patio. That includes your current drainage from the roof and new pool deck surface. Make sure you have a place for water to go. A lot of times drainage is an after-thought.

I had a great experience with the contractor renovating my pool but his subs need to be watched as they were not the sharpest bulbs
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26057 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Get a quality cover for the winter, preferably one that stretches so tight the dog can walk out on it without getting more than its paws wet. Also, safety fence around it in case the neighbor's kid is a wandering little bastard.


Dunno why this is getting downvoted, I got an automatic one that a person can walk on and it’s worth its weight in gold. I also have a curious 2 year old though it’s peace of mind as well as keeping the pool clean from debris
Posted by Auburntiger
BTR area
Member since Mar 2005
14425 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Very close to signing a contract on a new pool.




I put in my pool 10 years ago. The first few years I could not keep the kids out of it. They are older now (in college) and don't spend any time at all in the pool anymore.

TBH I wish I would have never put up the expense to put one in. In the future I would have no problem purchasing a house that already has a pool - but I would NEVER have one put in again.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9511 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 4:27 pm to
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I have no regrets, I use it constantly, and I will never live without one again.


Ditto, we are in our pool all summer and in our spa all winter.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134949 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:19 pm to
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Dunno why this is getting downvoted
Pool covers are not a good look
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37867 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:26 pm to
We're in South La.

I've hsd both; Travertine here for the win.

When I lived in Scottsdale, I didn't see much Kool deck. Mostly tile, but yes, it got hot.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2427 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:34 pm to
Another thought re: the hot tub. If you add one, put it near your main deck sitting area so it’s easier to converse with those who choose not to get in. It should also be in proximity to your outdoor tv. I can’t tell you how many games we’ve watched from the hot tub.

And if you add the hot tub/spa, then it’s a no brainer to have a heater. I can get the hot tub from 65° to 90° in about 20min with my gas heater whereas heating the entire pool takes at least half a day.
Posted by N2cars
Close by
Member since Feb 2008
37867 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:36 pm to
Excellent thoughts.


OP, also check references before you sign a contract.

Pool builders are scum, for the most part.
Posted by Slip Screen
Magnolia, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
2172 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 5:36 pm to
Chiller if you live in a Southern state. Salt water. Hot tub.
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
661 posts
Posted on 6/23/25 at 6:49 pm to
Worst decision you can make is to put a pool in. Take it from experience
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