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Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:38 pm to ApexTiger
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school board doesn't control teach pay, the legislate does
That is complete bullshite.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:44 pm to ApexTiger
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school board doesn't control teacher pay, the STATE legislature does.
Yeah, so that's why a teacher in one parish can make 60k while a teacher in another with the same experience/years can only make 54k?
Stfu with this bullshite. There's already been plenty of info posted in this thread that calls that into question.
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If you down vote my comments at least provide a reason.
Lmao! Dude, how new are you to Tiger Droppings? You really think you are entitled to a reason on here?
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:49 pm to fishfighter
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So, being that she is a tax payer there, that don't count? GTFO
You don't understand that Superintendent is an elected position? So there is a political piece to this situation...meaning the people put the Superintend into power, not a teacher with personal grievances over system
2nd, Teachers, many across the country are part of a union. Unions for the most part destroy the entity they are trying represent. It's never good giving too much power to the employees. Its' also not good to have too big of a government...so it is what it is
3rd, the state branch of government controls the education budget and teacher pay.
4th. Many local board meetings across the country are like this, in fact this was mild to what I have seen locally in Durham NC...it's usually complete melt down from teachers complaining, parents complaining. In this case a few years ago, it was a white woman Superintendent in a minority city. Oh my, what a disaster it was...no win for anyone
I think some superintendents are overpaid, some earn 300k
but after what I have seen in NC, that's not nearly enough for the stress and BS they go through. Thankless job
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:51 pm to ApexTiger
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3rd, the state branch of government controls the education budget and teacher pay.
They do not control teacher pay. If so explain why teachers in different parishes make different amounts?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:52 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Yeah, so that's why a teacher in one parish can make 60k while a teacher in another with the same experience/years can only make 54k?
You think life is fair don't you?
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Stfu with this bull shite. There's already been plenty of info posted in this thread that calls that into question.
Questions are fine, but not every teacher should earn the same, get out of here with that BS.
55k on 9 months work with full benefits is not that bad...give me a break
I own my own business, pay myself a modest salary of 50k and no benefits and work year round and most Saturdays...The government regardless of revenues, stays in business
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:52 pm to ApexTiger
Superintendent is NOT elected. It’s SELECTED by the board (who are elected by the people). And no Supts in La make 300K.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:55 pm to ApexTiger
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You don't understand that Superintendent is an elected position? So there is a political piece to this situation
Yeah, elected by the Board, not the people.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 3:57 pm to ApexTiger
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You think life is fair don't you?
So the state decides that some parishes will pay more to a new teacher than another parish will?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:00 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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They do not control teacher pay. If so explain why teachers in different parishes make different amounts?
you guys realize LSU receives monies from the STATE to keep the doors open right?
who do you think approves these funds?
who sets the budget every year?
The STATE!
would you approve an LSU professor earning 105k a year attending a board meeting when the board is deciding who to hire for LSU's next football coach? a group of them raising hell over how much they make? What a melt that would be right?
I am sure it happens but probably not like this... think of how embarrassing it must have felt for the Super to listen to all these teachers complain about a raise he as promised 5 years ago. This is why it's a thankless job.
Everyone has a valid point....I am for teachers, they are important piece of our society
but I don't like it when State employees (teachers)are bitching in a public forum about the State's business when it's our money we're talking about...and the local board is simply trying to get it done
I hate big government because it simply can not get it right and never will
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:01 pm to Cowboyfan89
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So the state decides that some parishes will pay more to a new teacher than another parish will?
Shouldn't the school's principal control which teachers make what?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:02 pm to Off McVoy
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And no Supts in La make 300K.
Well they do in Durham NC...
a Minority city
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:05 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Lmao! Dude, how new are you to Tiger Droppings?
Not new but don't post on the OT often
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You really think you are entitled to a reason on here?
no not all, just want to have a conversation about "why" you think the way you do
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:06 pm to ApexTiger
Don't change your shitty argument now. You said the state controls the pay. So why is the base pay different from parish to parish if it's controlled by the state?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:07 pm to Cowboyfan89
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So the state decides that some parishes will pay more to a new teacher than another parish will?
Are all parish equal?
If not why not?
Are all teachers the same?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:08 pm to ApexTiger
quote:hmmmmm well not true anymore
2nd, Teachers, many across the country are part of a union. Unions for the most part destroy the entity they are trying represent. It's never good giving too much power to the employees. Its' also not good to have too big of a government...so it is what it is
quote:Well that is not true either, yes they have a minimum amount but they do not control what each individual Parish will pay teachers.
3rd, the state branch of government controls the education budget and teacher pay.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:10 pm to Off McVoy
quote:Pujols in Ascension was at like 200k... of course she took over and immediately got the teachers a pay raise in the Parish. She also brought Ascension to an A ranking and one of the best in the state.
And no Supts in La make 300K.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:12 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Don't change your shitty argument now.
give me names, experiences, subjects they teach, and actually salaries paid instead of your baseless spewing
how do I know what your saying is even true?
If a school had 100 teachers, why would you expect all of them to earn the same?
No place of employment is like that...why should teaching be different.
The state establishes budgets...how it gets spent is decided from the Education budget office, with Governor's approval...right?
it's a big bucket with many hands in it. Superintendent surely has some say, as does each school and the person's controlling their own budgets.
When you're talking about a national issue of Teachers being under paid, and classroom too big, it's unfair to lay this at the feet of one man in Superintendent role. He/she is only given so much to work with each year.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:14 pm to ApexTiger
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give me names, experiences, subjects they teach, and actually salaries paid instead of your baseless spewing
how do I know what your saying is even true?
Keep moving the goal posts. You said the state sets teacher pay. This isn't about individual teachers.
Go look at any two salary schedules, and you will see that is complete bullshite. I even posted some examples a ways back in this thread.
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