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re: Vermilion Parish teacher arrested during school board meeting
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:17 pm to ApexTiger
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:17 pm to ApexTiger
quote:If they all had the same experience, same degree then yes....
If a school had 100 teachers, why would you expect all of them to earn the same?
Special Ed teachers make more than regular ed
High School teachers make more than Middle School/Elementary
quote:The state doesn't really decide teacher salaries, not sure why you believe that. The department of education really focuses on school improvement through grants, state based testing, teacher training, etc...
he state establishes budgets...how it gets spent is decided from the Education budget office, with Governor's approval...right?
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Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:17 pm to ApexTiger
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You don't understand that Superintendent is an elected position?
You are the one that obviously doesn't understand. The SI is not elected. He's appointed by this obviously corrupt board.
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3rd, the state branch of government controls the education budget and teacher pay
Then explain to me why the SI said they will work on getting teachers a raise in a few months.
You apparently dont know what you are talking about, like you are claiming to. There is tons of info in this thread as to the real issues here. Not just teacher/SI raises. You didn't take the time to read before you came with your misguided views.
I don't like that this is turning into a women's rights situation, but I'm sure the teacher is being instructed by her lawyers to take it in that direction to maximize her profits. Its taking away from the bigger issues here.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:19 pm to ApexTiger
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Shouldn't the school's principal control which teachers make what
Yeah, I'm sure this would work beautifully. Let's give principals more power to determine who makes what. This would lead to more corruption with principals giving more $$$ to their pals. Do you really see no potential issues with that?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:19 pm to Off McVoy
In Louisiana, the Superintendent is selected and the employee of the school board.
In NC, the state sets teacher pay state wide.
In LA, teacher salary schedules are set by the local school boards. About 50% of teacher salaries come from the state and 50% locally. Sometimes the legislature will dedicate funding to a state wide teacher pay increase. Local districts can also increase teacher pay .
In NC, the state sets teacher pay state wide.
In LA, teacher salary schedules are set by the local school boards. About 50% of teacher salaries come from the state and 50% locally. Sometimes the legislature will dedicate funding to a state wide teacher pay increase. Local districts can also increase teacher pay .
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:21 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Holy crap, dude just step away from the this. You haven't a clue
Shouldn't the school's principal control which teachers make what?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:22 pm to ApexTiger
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Are all parish equal?
If not why not?
Are all teachers the same?
Because we do not live in a socialist country.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:24 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Yeah, I'm sure this would work beautifully. Let's give principals more power to determine who makes what. This would lead to more corruption with principals giving more $$$ to their pals. Do you really see no potential issues with that?
You don't think a principal should be responsible for managing a budget?
What do you think a principal does all day long?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:25 pm to ApexTiger
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Are all parish equal?
No.
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If not why not?
Because not all parishes have the same budget. Some are richer than others, for different reasons.
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Are all teachers the same?
The same in terms of whats required to teach a certain subject or grade level.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:26 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Because we do not live in a socialist country.
apparently the people who claim I am nuts an uninformed think the system should be more socialist
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:27 pm to tduecen
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Holy crap, dude just step away from the this. You haven't a clue
are you suggesting that principals aren't involved in the hiring process?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:27 pm to ApexTiger
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You don't think a principal should be responsible for managing a budget?
A principal does manage a budget.
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What do you think a principal does all day long?
You think that's all a pricipal should do, is determine which teachers deserve what pay.
Thank god you aren't running a school system.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:29 pm to ApexTiger
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apparently the people who claim I am nuts an uninformed think the system should be more socialist
No you do. You refuse to believe that the state does not set salaries for teachers even though multiple posters have told you otherwise. Either you are mentally retarded or too proud to admit when you have made a mistake and you are wrong. Either way you should just let it go because you are making yourself look like a fool.
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:29 pm to Shaun176
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In LA, teacher salary schedules are set by the local school boards. About 50% of teacher salaries come from the state and 50% locally. Sometimes the legislature will dedicate funding to a state wide teacher pay increase. Local districts can also increase teacher pay .
Ok, so a lot of hands involved over a finite amount of funds.
different state, slightly different set up, same results
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:29 pm to ApexTiger
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are you suggesting that principals aren't involved in the hiring process?
Nobody said this...and it has nothing to do with what a teacher makes. Every 1st year teacher in the district will make X amount of money. That rises as the number of years experience goes up. The fact that you think a principal should decide that Teacher A with 5 years of experience should be hired for 50k, versus another teacher with the same experience should make 40k is insane. This would lead to more corruption.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:30 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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No you do. You refuse to believe that the state does not set salaries for teachers even though multiple posters have told you otherwise. Either you are mentally retarded or too proud to admit when you have made a mistake and you are wrong. Either way you should just let it go because you are making yourself look like a fool
Solid advice right here. But it will be ignored.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:31 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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No you do. You refuse to believe that the state does not set salaries for teachers even though multiple posters have told you otherwise. Either you are mentally retarded or too proud to admit when you have made a mistake and you are wrong. Either way you should just let it because you are making yourself look like a fool.
LULZ
Ok Ponchy since you're so wise and I am the fool, why don't the local boards just give the teachers what they want?
why not give them the raise they want/demand and provide smaller classrooms?
wouldn't that be an easy vote and go play golf?
This post was edited on 1/14/18 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:33 pm to ApexTiger
quote:Hiring yes, salary no... Even if the principal wants to hire someone the school board can override that and say no.
are you suggesting that principals aren't involved in the hiring process?
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:36 pm to ApexTiger
quote:And reduce the fact they can give themselves raises? You will see when a Parish has a teaching shortage they will raise teacher salary magically. This is to lure teachers into the Parish then they have no reason to raise salaries again until needed.
why don't the local boards just give the teachers what they want?
quote:So smaller classrooms means needing to hire more teachers, at the raise then the schoolboard won't make as much money.
why not give them the raise they want/demand and provide smaller classrooms?
I really think you are being purposely obtuse about this situation and just arguing to argue at this point.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:36 pm to ApexTiger
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Ok Ponchy since you're so wise and I am the fool, why don't the local boards just give the teachers what the want?
I am no more wise than anyone else and probably less. I know for the most part how teacher pay works. Teacher pay varies from parish to parish. Mostly determined by tax revenue and wealth of that parish. So you think local parishes should just give the teachers whatever they want? Hell in that case I want to be a teacher.
Posted on 1/14/18 at 4:37 pm to ApexTiger
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Ok Ponchy since you're so wise and I am the fool, why don't the local boards just give the teachers what they want?
You are serious huh? Why doesn't every CEO/President of every company just give everybody a raise when they want one?
There are budget restraints dude. You are acting like the school board is working with an unlimited budget. This one in particular has been in the red.
You obviously haven't read the tons of info posted in this thread, which would educate you on all of the issues involved. Instead you are coming and throwing out crap that you are clueless about. Its showing...and no matter how much people are telling you that you are dead arse wrong, you continue on.
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