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re: Utah passes bill to cut "useless" college degrees at state universities.

Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41121 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Should we ignore the contributions that gender studies have made to health care, criminal justice, education, etc?


Yes
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135125 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:09 pm to
Good
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2770 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:26 pm to
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teachers


Not doing that well for the most part. Untrained housewives in many cases outperform trained teachers, who teach at the public level. Yeah, we need them. Just need them to be better.

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lawyers


Remains to be seen....

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writers


Guess you are talking about journalists. Another one that is debateble these days.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2770 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:29 pm to
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AI is coming in hot to replace STEM jobs. Smartest thing in the world will be in everyone’s pocket in no time


Nope. Just nope.

There is a thing called liability. Humans can be held liable. AI cannot.

Liabity drives a lot more than most truly realize.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15591 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 4:33 pm to
Accounting, finance, and business should be more of a 2 year trade degree. Most are engineering flunk outs anyways.
Posted by 81Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since Sep 2009
6816 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:44 pm to
I have a 4 year accounting degree from LSU. I have long argued that the degree could have been earned in 2 or no more than 3 years.

Some classes were astronomy, biology, geography, journalism, American history, and literature. These are just courses forced on business students to bolster the attendance for non popular departments.

The thinking is that they want to develop “well rounded” students. Students should be able to choose to attend and pay for a “well rounded” 4 year degree or a two year concentrated degree without the fluff.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6863 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 5:58 pm to
The ones that bother me most are the degrees that literally only qualify you to teach that same subject. Women's Studies? You can be a politician or teach Women's Studies. What else are you doing with it?
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
2652 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:13 pm to
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Based on a legislative audit. Consequently the University of Utah cuts 81 "degrees" access a wide range of fields, such as humanities, fine arts, ENGINEERING, science, and business.


“Engineering”????? Man, you obviously DID NOT read the article.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104110 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Hate to tell you this but business admin is a completely useless undergrad degree. That’s where the worst business students reside. The good ones are typically advised to switch to another program or outright poached by other majors.


If if I was hiring someone for my Fortune 500 company, I would look for someone who can think and write. Maybe even one of those nasty liberal arts majors. Our in house training program can teach them anything else they need to know.

Even if I was hiring an engineer, I would look favorably on someone whose background showed they could think outside the box and comminicate.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34435 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:39 pm to
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Some people seem to be in a rush to throw the baby out with the bathwater


Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3658 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:03 pm to
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If if I was hiring someone for my Fortune 500 company, I would look for someone who can think and write.
I completely agree. I structure my courses in such a way that it fosters critical thinking and teamwork. There’s always a final presentation and final report on a project also. From my experience, employers want to hire someone that is dependable, has good communication skills, can critically think, and is coachable. I try to make sure my students fit that mold.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22299 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:14 pm to
English Creative Writing guy here and I 100% agree with this. Totally worthless degree
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3896 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:25 pm to
I don’t agree with this being legislated in this manner, but I see utility in withholding federal loans for these degrees.

There has to be a better way
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3896 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 8:26 pm to
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There is a thing called liability. Humans can be held liable. AI cannot.



Nailed it.
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