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re: Utah man tests limits of electric truck by towing 10,000lbs until it dies

Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1573 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:26 pm to
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shove your fat faces with pulled pork and then leave.


Come on bro. Brisket!!
Posted by WhoDatKrewe
Member since Jan 2023
72 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:07 pm to
Same reason Teslas semi dogshit could only haul bags of Cheetos 100 miles on a full charge. Add canned soda and it’s dead in 30 miles lol
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48016 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:11 pm to
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$70k truck with a 100 mile limit lol

+45 min to get ready to start next 100 miles.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7043 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:13 pm to
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Teslas semi


Towed 81,000 lbs 500 miles
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14396 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:19 pm to
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100 miles during the winter.


So what would the mpg be for a ICE truck pulling the same weight?

Say he only gets 10 mpg, or 10 gallons. About $30. So saves $17 but trip takes an extra 1hr15m. Plus time to get on and off road to charge up

So a 92m drive at 65mph took twice as long…….
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14242 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Right now any electric trucks are worthless to us cattle ranchers.
Wondering why there isn't a big push for electric tractors. That kinda makes sense. Lot's of torque, you aren't going far from the charging station, almost zero maintenance.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5950 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:36 pm to
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Technology just isn’t there for an EV truck. At least not for my driving habits.

Maybe one day soon………..


Ram Revolution
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:38 pm to
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If you want a vehicle with fewer moving parts likely to require maintenance, go electric but consider the trade-offs of lower range and longer time to refuel.


I think the jury is still out on what is considered “less maintenance”.

Just ask someone with a Ford Focus EV who has a car that needs a new battery pack that costs more than the car is worth.

Yeah you may be saving on oil changes and air filters but I’m not yet convinced the long term ownership costs are less.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40402 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:41 pm to
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I think the jury is still out on what is considered “less maintenance”.

Just ask someone with a Ford Focus EV who has a car that needs a new battery pack that costs more than the car is worth.

Yeah you may be saving on oil changes and air filters but I’m not yet convinced the long term ownership costs are less.


Which one has more moving mechanical parts?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:42 pm to
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Wondering why there isn't a big push for electric tractors. That kinda makes sense. Lot's of torque, you aren't going far from the charging station, almost zero maintenance.


Because the power needed for the application would require a huge battery that would probably make packaging impossible. Not to mention being costly and time consuming to recharge.

The advantages of max torque at zero rpm sound good but it takes a tremendous amount of long term output to haul freight or till fields all day and night.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:43 pm to
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Which one has more moving mechanical parts?


Which one costs more to own and keep on the road over the vehicle’s life?

You already know the answer with current technology.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11189 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:44 pm to
Who lives in the one strip of land in Utah where the plug ins are common.
Get away from the front (west side) of the mountains and try to take that ET 100 miles and find a convenient electrid source and plan to walk a long, long way.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53086 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:47 pm to
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Which one has more moving mechanical parts?

I do wonder what will eventually happen to the resale value of EVs once we have enough old ones on the road. Would you buy one with an expired or soon to expire battery warranty?
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12092 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Ford Lightning is worse


Neighbor, who is a contractor, waited a year and half for his. Had it less than a week before bringing it back to dealership. Towing capacity and range were worthless
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:51 pm to
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I do wonder what will eventually happen to the resale value of EVs once we have enough old ones on the road. Would you buy one with an expired or soon to expire battery warranty?


They get scrapped.

Also check in to insurance costs for that Tesla. Very expensive to insure and very difficult to get collision parts to fix.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53086 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 7:55 pm to
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Towing capacity and range were worthless

I think the range in ideal conditions is 200 miles or 300 for the one with the bigger battery (+12k). You probably won't get that either. I'm sure the tech will improve but that's fairly useless to me
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14810 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:07 pm to
$13 45 min charge that gave him 10 miles. Then he had to find a free charger.
The rivian would look much better doing away with those oval headlights.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40402 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:09 pm to
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do wonder what will eventually happen to the resale value of EVs once we have enough old ones on the road. Would you buy one with an expired or soon to expire battery warranty?


At some point they will become more attractive as resales due to the fact that they have vastly fewer moving parts to replace.

No denying they're not there yet but it would be foolish to believe battery tech won't advance to the point of economic viability.
This post was edited on 1/14/23 at 8:09 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14242 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:22 pm to
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Because the power needed for the application would require a huge battery that would probably make packaging impossible. Not to mention being costly and time consuming to recharge.

The advantages of max torque at zero rpm sound good but it takes a tremendous amount of long term output to haul freight or till fields all day and night.

I get that for huge commercial farms, but what about the average guy with 10-20 acres that just needs to bush hog or plow for a garden? I have a small tractor I use to mow with, move some dirt with the FEL, box blade for the drive, etc. Bought it new over a year ago, and it has 36 hours on the motor. Seems like electric would be ideal for someone like me.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14242 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 8:28 pm to
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I do wonder what will eventually happen to the resale value of EVs once we have enough old ones on the road. Would you buy one with an expired or soon to expire battery warranty?


A buddy of mine recently went to look at a used BMW I8. Cool car, but it was 4 years old and we all know those batteries have a shelf life. He passed on it. Batteries are the Achilles Heal of used electric vehicles. Big bucks to replace.
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