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re: USDA to no longer help fund solar & wind farms on productive farmland
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:58 am to ragincajun03
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:58 am to ragincajun03
What if the owner of the land wants to put a turbine on his land?
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Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:03 am to dewster
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we need better quality panels
They're already here. There's a tier 1 list for a reason.
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better quality installers
Mostly in residential but some what an issue in commercial and industrial. But there are good players out there. you just need to do research and not sign with the first sales bro that stops by.
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more reputable companies involved
There are plenty, they're just not the cheapest.
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I think Tesla's solar roof has a lot of potential
It doesn't. Even Tesla wants it to die. It's bee a colossal failure.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:04 am to dewster
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Covering valuable land with highly subsidized solar farms is just stupid. Solar belongs on top of buildings and parking decks to help build a decentralized grid and provide a boost during peak times.
no argument here.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:05 am to ProjectP2294
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But also probably remediate whatever those things leach into the ground.
Leaching has been solved for a very long time. It's an outdated talking point from the early days of weird PV that didn't use an encapsulate.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:09 am to dewster
quote:It doesn’t exist because smart people understand solar is a joke.
Covering valuable land with highly subsidized solar farms is just stupid. Solar belongs on top of buildings and parking decks to help build a decentralized grid and provide a boost during peak times.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:10 am to ragincajun03
quote:Millions?? Really?
“Millions of acres
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:10 am to ragincajun03
Thank God Trump got elected instead of the loons.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:14 am to ProjectP2294
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They're only harmful if you think killing animals and leaving a shite ton of non-recyclable waste is harmful.
Well yes, that and it generates more in emissions to produce them than they ever offset in service. Like Teslas, it’s all feel good bullshite.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:15 am to LSURussian
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Millions?? Really?
It's not millions. There was 239GW of solar interconnected in the US at the end of 2024. That's about 1.2M acres BUT that number is across residential, commercial, industrial and utility scale.
Rough estimates put the utility scale at about half of total deployment.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:15 am to Old Hellen Yeller
no more bird-chopping factories or mile wide solar ovens that fry any living thing that happens to fly over it?
but muh mother earth
but muh mother earth
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:16 am to ragincajun03
I voted for this
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:16 am to dnm3305
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Why is someone always trying to frick with farmers and our food supply?
The greatest threat to our food supply is the continued destruction of the small/family farm. We are increasingly concentrating farm operations and farmland into a smaller and smaller group of massive industrial farming conglomerates, ultimately giving total control of our food supply to a smaller, more centralized group of individuals.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:17 am to billjamin
quote:Thanks for the information. I felt like "millions" was another O-T exaggeration.
It's not millions.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:19 am to LegendInMyMind
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The greatest threat to our food supply is the continued destruction of the small/family farm.
The program that just got nuked was for farmers to get a guaranteed loan to install PV systems to support their operations. This wasn't for utility scale solar farms. It was helping farms offset energy prices by offered them federally backed loans to install their own system.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:20 am to ragincajun03
It’s amazing how “normal” is so strange…
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:25 am to Lakeboy7
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What if the owner of the land wants to put a turbine on his land?
If a landowner wants to sell or lease his/her land for solar or wind, that’s their right. Government doesn’t have to help pay for it, though.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:32 am to cubsfan5150
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Yet another thing that the trumpkins didn't care about until told to
This is definitely not true.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:29 am to ragincajun03
This way farmers needing cash can sell it to developers to turn it into cookie-cutter homes and industrial buildings.
not sure which is better....
not sure which is better....
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:30 am to ragincajun03
Can they define “productive” farmland?
I propose we just turn the entire state of Arizona into a solar farm, that way we don’t have to build any more anywhere
I propose we just turn the entire state of Arizona into a solar farm, that way we don’t have to build any more anywhere
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:03 pm to ragincajun03
Solar and wind should be banned. Our ranch is in central Texas and they took a beautiful 300 foot tall hill (the Brady mountains) and covered it in windmills several years ago. It was a gorgeous landmark that's now tarnished
We are 33 miles north of the wind farm and can still see them day and night out in the distance. Landowners initially resisted but unless you have thousands of acres, you'll still be looking at your neighbors 300 foot windmill so eventually they all capitulated and at least got paid for it
13 miles south of us they built a 3000 acre solar farm and destroyed beautiful natural ranch land to do it. From the hill our house sits on we can see it reflecting like a second Sun out in the distance.
10 miles to our west they are currently building a 3500 acre solar farm and are currently in the process of using dozers to annihilate every tree, plant shrub, and animal from the property. It's sickening
We are 33 miles north of the wind farm and can still see them day and night out in the distance. Landowners initially resisted but unless you have thousands of acres, you'll still be looking at your neighbors 300 foot windmill so eventually they all capitulated and at least got paid for it
13 miles south of us they built a 3000 acre solar farm and destroyed beautiful natural ranch land to do it. From the hill our house sits on we can see it reflecting like a second Sun out in the distance.
10 miles to our west they are currently building a 3500 acre solar farm and are currently in the process of using dozers to annihilate every tree, plant shrub, and animal from the property. It's sickening
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 12:13 pm
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