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re: U.S. Will Ban Smoking in Public Housing Nationwide

Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27579 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:46 pm to

they can't keep out drugs, vandalism, hookers, and murder, how they hell they going to keep out tobacco?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:49 pm to
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If they have kids, like most in public housing do, the give ain't evicting shite. They won't be throwing kids out onto the street.


This. First social media story about a woman with multiple frick trophies being put on the street and the riots will put Sterling to shame.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11079 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:49 pm to
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Since the property is owned by the government, I have no problem with this. But this is pretty much unenforceable.



I did some work for a GC that built 5 different 60 lot section 8 housing developments that were managed by a property management company when we were done. When doing our warranty work I always talked to the property manager. They have a major waiting list and evict people left and right. One of the main things they evict people for is grease fire damage from frying foods. It's crazy!
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4341 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 7:56 pm to
They should ban sex too. Would be about as successful as banning smokes.
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2167 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:01 pm to
If you enter into a government subsidy program, you should lose certain liberties. Like how you live, what you eat for food, what kind of car you drive. I guess they did that at one point with government cheese. You would lineup for your welfare food. I'm not sure why that one went away.
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8287 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:03 pm to
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Since the property is owned by the government, I have no problem with this.


I have no problem with it either, especially being that the property is owned by us, the people.
Posted by J311slx
Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2011
1978 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:12 pm to
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Good. If you can afford cigarettes, you don't need the government's help finding a place to live


Look, I completely agree that there are tons of people in public housing who are only there because of poor life choices, and zero financial management skills, but a pack a day habit, average of $6 per day is only $186/month. That ain't exactly a rent payment in non subsidized housing. The much bigger issue than a smoker living in public housing is the rampant fraud and abuse of the public housing qualifications program. Let's fix that before blaming a smoking habit for forcing someone onto the government's teat.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74552 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:15 pm to
I think if they can afford $5+ a day on a pack of smokes, they shouldn't be in public housing to start with.
Posted by Da Blitz
Member since Dec 2016
145 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:29 pm to
Smoking should be banned everywhere.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18394 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:30 pm to
Support, smoking inside is nasty.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10376 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:32 pm to
Good luck trying to police that one...
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61691 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:33 pm to
Smoking is bad

Milking welfare encouraged

Don't we want em to die quicker? Seems we would give em cigs and heroin with their keys
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 8:57 pm to
Great so force the people outside to loiter in the streets.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11120 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:02 pm to
So where are we suppose to smoke our illegal weed?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:04 pm to
Looks like a good idea until they come out with the "smoking ban enforcement department" with a 20 million dollar a year payroll.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

Even Newports and Black n Milds?


Those are exempt. Only white people cigs are banned.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178325 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:06 pm to
Roughly 50% of poor black people smoke so how is this going to work?
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:25 pm to
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Roughly 50% of poor black people smoke so how is this going to work?


It won't. This is one of those feel good laws. "Look, we the law makers are doing something"!

Honestly they missed the trifecta of making middle class parents feel good about their leaders. If you add in a clause that says the poor people will pay a fine for smoking that will directly go to schools then you could get reelected for years.

1) Law that effects only poor people (especially people that have a reputation for committing crimes) CHECK

2) punishes smokers CHECK

3) has a nebulous provision that help the children CHECK
This post was edited on 12/27/16 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:30 pm to
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Smoking will be prohibited in public housing residences nationwide ..

Try enforcing that one.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 12/27/16 at 9:56 pm to
I agree completely. If they require housing assistance, they shouldn't have $300 a month to spare on cigarettes. It wouldn't be a bad idea to study cost effectiveness of requiring smokers on government assistance for health care to complete cessation programs. I know and love lots of smokers. It's hard as hell to quit, but can the government possibly be generating more revenue off the taxes to ignore how costly poor, sick smokers are?

My insurance charges more for smokers. It's a penalty, and I wish they could figure out how to penalize smokers on Medicaid too without people freaking out.
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