re: US ranchers orgs oppose plan U.S. government’s plan to import more Argentine beef

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I know several local big farmers that started their own co-op about a decade ago. They even bought an old grain elevated that had been closed for years.


Last year I heard a group in Montana (I think) decided to form their own coop.

Its not something that will overtake the market, but could help some farmers and ranchers avoid dealing with BigCorp all the time.

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Co-ops are not a new idea. They have been around forever. They have not become more widespread because farmers and ranchers typically do not work well together for extended periods of time. When one does succeed it either gets large enough that it acts like BigCorp or it gets bought out by BigCorp.

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And agricultural economists say Argentine beef accounts for such a small slice of beef imports — only about 2% — that even doubling that wouldn’t change prices much.

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Much of what is imported is lean beef trimmings that meatpackers mix with fattier beef produced in the United States to produce the varieties of ground beef that domestic consumers want, so any change in imports would affect primarily hamburger.

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So change or no change?


It won't change much, well except for lowering ground beef prices, the stuff the customers are buying.


These are a bit contradictory.

Belifs for Le Resistance don't require consistency or logic, baw.

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Lots of boomers like yourself think Trump is king because you were told he was.

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I think Trump is a yuuuuge a-hole, I voted for him three times though, what was the alternative?

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we needed some sort of leadership, I really wish these young'n's that bitch about boomers so much would step up to plate and create some rising star new generation of level headed leaders to take over

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Millenial men are in the middle of or coming out of their midlife crisis era. JD Vance is the leading indicator. We got you old baws.

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There are a good 10 or more on the poli board that would absolutely join antifa if Trump told them to.

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You're using the poli board as an example?

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I thought I already did.

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I am going to be blunt because I don't have the time to concoct a soft pedal approach this afternoon but I have no beef with you.

You haven't come close to explaining the goals. No one has.

I accept your position that the process is nuanced and carefully constructed to accomplish targeted goals. I gave two specific markets and two specific sectors to deal with so you could illuminate those nuanced specific goals vis-a-vis those markets and sectors. You simply gave a generalized trust me bro argumant I keep hearing. If you can articulate a specific goal in ten words or fewer you have no specific goal.

I can accept the approach is a scatter-shot attempt to leverage "better" trade deals, but I have yet to see true articulatable and specific goals in specific areas. Forgive me if that leads me to the conclusion that the ideas aren't carefully crafted but instead are ham-fisted attempts, praying for positive effects one can point to afterward as a 4D chess move.

I don't have a problem importing from Argentina until US stick are replenished. It's too high now, and US beef only wants to keep high prices

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- his relationship with Israel
- his pushing the boundaries with Russia via arming Ukraine

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Agreed here

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his guarding of the Epstein files and calling it a liberal hoax of all things (which we all know goes back to his relationship with Israel - Epstein was Mossad)

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Unknown, the wheels of justice and government grind slowly, so this is one I won't sweat until he leaves office with nothing happening.

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uncontrolled spending

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Agreed, though I do think a sincere effort to clean this up is ongoing. We'll see if they can even make a dent. This is a fedgov in total problem.