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re: US Navy gives up on fighter pilots and turns to drones; says the F-35 will be its last fig

Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Ancient Egyptians built pyramids out of sand that have stood for 5000 years without 1/1000000 of our technology, imagine what archeologist will find from our society in 5000 years. Imagine what we COULD create if we had the mind to


Mostly trash made from a bunch of plastic shite that nobody really needs but instead buys out of pure laziness.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:41 am to
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Wanna know how I know you have no experience with satellite communications?


i have plenty of experience with military grade satellite communications. We have access to it in my line of work.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:43 am to
What, they are LEO?

EDIT: From what I'm reading you are still looking at around a 0.25 second to a half second delay one way transmission.

Great for real time video, spy drones, etc.

Not so much for combat.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 8:47 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:45 am to
i'm not going to argue.It is safe to say any lag is negligible at most.It would be an interesting study to find out the time differential between the response of a real pilot and a communications driven remote pilot. I mean,there's still the human factor there with the pilot sitting in a room somewhere.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:46 am to
I'm pretty sure air to air combat is a thing of the past. And knowing this i'm sure there is no need for a pilot in a seat.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 8:49 am to
Eh.

I'd imagine pulling off high G moves are shaky enough that the plane can't wait for a half second for the information to be sent, however long for the pilot to decide how to react and move, and then another half second for the info to go back.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:02 am to
The need for combat aircraft is only going to diminish anyway. We now have cruise missiles that can be launched from thousands of miles away from either air, land or sea platforms that can carry a variety of payloads. They are only getting more accurate and versatile every day. I personally think the aircraft carrier is today what the battleship was in 1941. Small destroyers and submarines will soon be able to carry hundreds of small or large cruise missiles they can launch from hundreds of miles off shire and can strike targets hundreds of miles inland. Artillery and mortar rounds are now GPS guided and the army has a rocket system that is accurate to a meter that can be fired from hundreds of miles away. These will take the place of a lot CAS platforms.
Posted by forksup
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:04 am to
Time to get good at Microsoft Aircraft Similator X?
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:11 am to
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there is currently nothing that can replicate the ability of a human to assess a situation and make a decision if there is one to be made


A human would still be in the loop, they aren't flying on automatic (yet).

The F-35 has a helmet visor that allows the pilot to "see" through the airframe merely by looking that way. It works by projecting the views from strategically-placed hi-res cameras onto the visor. That is *current* technology.

So why not just mount some more cameras for a full view and transmit to a pilot in a remote location?

With that helmet technology in place you could just put a human pilot at the controls of an amazing video game, flying a plane more maneuverable than anything Hollywood has come up with.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:13 am to
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I'm pretty sure air to air combat is a thing of the past. And knowing this i'm sure there is no need for a pilot in a seat.



GTFO of here with that
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:15 am to
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Im sure they know things I don't....but I don't see how these craft can have an advantage in a combat scenario. Other than tactics that you consider them disposable.



Russia and China have developed radars that can detect our stealth fighters. It is much cheaper to have them shoot down a drone than a F-35.
Posted by Drew Orleans
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 1:53 pm to
Single engine POS
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:38 pm to
Crazy
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:41 pm to
Maverick and Goose are crying.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:42 pm to
How are we going to make "Behind Enemy Lines 6" without a Naval Aviator?
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:45 pm to
Nerds win, again
Posted by sneakytiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:55 pm to
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if you leave it, or the fuel truck supplying it, out in the sun it won't start.


Sounds like my lawnmower
Posted by racingtiger88
Member since Dec 2009
102 posts
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:19 pm to
What happens in the future when the U.S. and other countries have their militaries fully automated and unmanned? Will war be a contest of who can destroy the most robots? Imagine a top gun like dog fight between drones.

Will this make countries more or less likely to engage each other militarily if there is minimal loss of life?
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