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re: US birth rate hits all time low

Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Oh I’m sure your anecdotal experience around families who have made a conscious decision to have kids makes the national data about the public at large invalid.


I never said the data was invalid. I said I don't run in circles where a lot of childless people in their 30s and up are posting European vacation pics. Seems like you do.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9833 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:36 pm to
You’re talking as if I have children that are destined to be here.

They don’t exist yet. I’m not denying anyone of anything until they’re here. That’s the point.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36502 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:38 pm to
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They don’t exist yet. I’m not denying anyone of anything until they’re here. That’s the point.




That’s exactly my point


You are so wrapped up in “giving them the life that they deserve” that you are preventing them from even being alive.


To repost here because it is more appropriate with this post:
Until you see your 3 year old be more excited about a drive to Grandmas and Grandpas than vacation or your 2 your old have more fun with the box the toy came in than the Christmas present itself you can’t understand that the kids have no idea what that phenomenon of “the life they deserve” is




Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:39 pm to
I’m 30 and I would say a serious percentage of my friends, maybe even the majority, seem like they are not interested in having kids. My cousins too.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:41 pm to
Kids are just waiting to love something. It doesn't have to be an Xbox. It can be dad wearing a cardboard box as a hat. They are only as expensive as you make them.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Kids are just waiting to love something. It doesn't have to be an Xbox. It can be dad wearing a cardboard box as a hat. They are only as expensive as you make them.



I wish I could convince my wife/parents/in laws of that when they buy my son his 8th garbage truck this year.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Oh I’m sure your anecdotal experience around families who have made a conscious decision to have kids makes the national data about the public at large invalid.


Like your anecdotal evidence that everyone is taking Disney trips?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69161 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:46 pm to


That's your job. It's their job to stimey your good parenting the entire time. The balance is what makes good adults.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36502 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Like your anecdotal evidence that everyone is taking Disney trips?



You literally posted data of Disneyland and Disneyworld having 40,000,000 more visitors compared to the mid 90s







I’m confused what you are arguing
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:49 pm to
I throw away a toy a day when nobody is looking
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39949 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:53 pm to
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You literally posted data of Disneyland and Disneyworld having 40,000,000 more visitors compared to the mid 90s


Also 70million more Americans.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69161 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:54 pm to
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I throw away a toy a day when nobody is looking


We started doing an exchange program during Christmas a couple years ago. Since Santa doesn't visit every house, we pick one or two toys each to give to a family that Santa doesn't visit.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3441 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:00 pm to
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What’s wrong with someone wanting to work for a living and not stay home and wait on a man hand and foot?


Nobody said anything about waiting on a man hand and foot. And if you want to get out why not work AT a daycare??

Also, what if the man wants to stay at home while wife works? That doesn't seem to work per the stats, but it's an option nonetheless
Posted by CapitalTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2019
298 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:04 pm to
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Uh, he literally IS!


You’re assuming that every child born makes it to child producing age and has 2 children.

Which is not accurate. Replication rate is around 2.3
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13527 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:04 pm to
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That’s exactly my point


You are so wrapped up in “giving them the life that they deserve” that you are preventing them from even being alive.
Especially in this country, where a child who grows up even in a bottom 25% earning household will have a higher standard of living than 90-95% of the people on this planet.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69161 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:06 pm to
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Nobody said anything about waiting on a man hand and foot


Ideally though...
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39949 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:06 pm to
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And if you want to get out why not work AT a daycare??


Doesn’t really make sense to send kids to daycare if the wife is making less than ~60k which daycare workers are way under, she’d be working just to pay for daycare
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
2083 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:14 pm to
It’s the cost of living. Women need to work to help their husbands and they choose to get college educated which only makes them want to chase the dollar and put off child bearing. Many college degrees don’t equal big earnings either
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3928 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:15 pm to
And what happens if you can’t afford 25K/year childcare on one salary? Maybe our dumb frick politicians should do something about this problem.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25940 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:17 pm to
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And what happens if you can’t afford 25K/year childcare on one salary? Maybe our dumb frick politicians should do something about this problem.


Why would a couple be paying childcare if only one has a low paying job?
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