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re: UPS Teamsters Unite
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:49 pm to Tyga Woods
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:49 pm to Tyga Woods
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fast food workers established a union, demanded $15/hr and benefits, would you be in support of that?
You're equating labor relations to unskilled workers as a Strawman.
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
I pay my dues every week 
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:50 pm to Pecker
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without them your salary would be commensurate with the value you bring.
riiiight, you used to be sort of a cute little nerd as a poster, now the complete ignorance of a subject that you make strong statements as if you were educated in the matter, shows through, noted
ETA: now I'm going to totally regard your hygiene advice!!!
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:52 pm to roadkill
I've never had an issue with Fed Ex. UPS is always late and losing shite. I try to avoid at all costs.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:54 pm to Tyga Woods
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I’m all for making as much money as the market will allow, but what skills do drivers possess that justifies anything more than $10-12/hr. Not being ugly, serious question. Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen. Thanks
You are paying for reliability and independence. Not many people are going to show up to work with a foot of snow on the ground for 10 bucks an hour.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:54 pm to LSUlefty
Well, 777 does hit a nip. He's still kickass though.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:54 pm to pioneerbasketball
I am a lifelong Teamster and was a dues paying Teamster for United Parcel Service for over 6 years during college.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:55 pm to Tyga Woods
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If fast food workers established a union, demanded $15/hr and benefits, would you be in support of that?
The fast food business model could not support that high of a pay grade. UPS trucks gross $2k-$4k per day. Big difference between flipping .99 cent burgers and delivering $100k worth of goods everyday.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 4:58 pm to 777Tiger
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riiiight, you used to be sort of a cute little nerd as a poster, now the complete ignorance of a subject that you make strong statements as if you were educated in the matter, shows through, noted
my dad and grandfather dealt with labor unions their entire lives in the manufacturing industry. I never heard the end of the yearly negotiations. I'm not sure why that matters though. We can talk first principles of economics if you'd like. In the absence of government regulation, there is no basis for unions to exist. They cater to the weakest members of any industry. If you rely on them, it's because you don't provide enough value to justify your compensation.
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:00 pm to Tyga Woods
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If fast food workers established a union, demanded $15/hr and benefits, would you be in support of that?
Fast food workers can be replaced by automation once the pricepoint is right (and that's coming). UPS drivers cannot (at least not yet and probably never for larger, heavier items).
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:00 pm to Pecker
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it's because you don't provide enough value to justify your compensation.
well sonny, in a three day work period I am responsible for about 3-5 million dollars in profits to my employer, so there's that
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:01 pm to Montezuma
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A clean record, satisfactory customer service, patience with the warehouse, traffic, and customers while working with a tight schedule, on-time and able to work independently throughout the day, in any weather. That is good for $100/day easy if I am UPS. Pizza boys probably get paid more for much less qualifications when the tips come in. No, I have never worked for mail delivery
Would you trust a $10/hour quality employee to deliver 75k-100k worth of goods for you everyday...Which you are ultimately liable for if stolen or damaged? I don't think so....You give a $10 pizza to a $10/hr employee for delivery and thats about it.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:01 pm to 777Tiger
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well sonny, in a three day work period I am responsible for about 3-5 million dollars in profits to my employer, so there's that
You must be so valuable that your company would do anything to retain your services. In the absence of a union, there would be a bidding war for your services. Tell me again why you need to pay union fees.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:02 pm to 777Tiger
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so you are an expert on the history of labor relations in this country too, shocking
Metro fashion, union relations. The new age Renaissance man.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:03 pm to Disgeaux Bob
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Would you trust a $10/hour quality employee to deliver 75k-100k worth of goods for you everyday...Which you are ultimately liable for if stolen or damaged? I don't think so....You give a $10 pizza to a $10/hr employee for delivery and thats about it.
You are asking like I don't believe that mail delivery drivers are not value-added labor. I think they do have value, hence why I said easily $10. That is the floor, not the ceiling.
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:04 pm to Tyga Woods
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I’m all for making as much money as the market will allow, but what skills do drivers possess that justifies anything more than $10-12/hr. Not being ugly, serious question. Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen. Thanks
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UPS is proposing a two-tier wage structure that would switch part-time workers making $15/hour to full-time status, while existing employees would continue to earn $36 an hour, or roughly $75,000 a year.
$75,000 per year to deliver packages??? Holy shite LINK
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:05 pm to Pecker
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You must be so valuable that your company would do anything to retain your services.
I'm going to Hong Kong next week, I won't be carrying rubber dog shite, nor bringing any back, can you cover that for me? I'd rather take my boat out that day instead
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Tell me again why you need to pay union fees.
instead of taking the anti-union side, why not research the history of airline management, you seem to be good at googling
This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:06 pm to 777Tiger
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well sonny, in a three day work period I am responsible for about 3-5 million dollars in profits to my employer, so there's that
Oh, how hard can it be?
-Point nose at sky
-Keep nose pointed away from ground
-Keep nose in front
-Wings go side to side, not up and down
-Make sure spinny things keep spinning
-Keep the wheels on the bottom
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Metro fashion, union relations, animals. The new age Renaissance man.
don't ignore the full breadth of my expertise
Posted on 6/6/18 at 5:07 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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Oh, how hard can it be?
offer stands for you too baw
can you do it? will you be ready by Tuesday?
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