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re: UPS plane crashes in Louisville?

Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by CalCajun
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:50 pm to
So much speculation. Only thing we know is they had a situation and obvious fire, and a decision was made to try and fly it off probably per their training (Past V1 (point of no return) at V2 (take off safe speed). God speed, those aviators tried their best with the Sh#t sandwich they were handed.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:52 pm to
If it is accurate that this was an MD-11, I have to wonder if this will finally push UPS and FedEx to retire the rest of them in their fleets.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 5:55 pm to
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MD11 is basically a coffin with wings.
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Not really. Though they are essentially rebuilt DC-10s ( which were very problematic) MD- 11 have been relatively problem-free given flight hours flown. The last fatal incident in the world was 2016 and the last one from a U.S. carrier was 2009 and before that 1999.

Fedex and UPS put these things through the ringer over the years, but they are old girls at this point.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:00 pm to
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why the shelter in place?


It was flying to Hawaii so probably loaded with fuel. Capacity is about 38,000 gallons of jet fuel.

Also probably verifying what type of cargo was onboard to ensure it doesn’t present a separate risk to people.
Posted by Steve Rogers
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:02 pm to
Fox News says 3 crew on board
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

If it is accurate that this was an MD-11, I have to wonder if this will finally push UPS and FedEx to retire the rest of them in their fleets.


Maybe.

Also worth noting for folks, UPS Worldport is something like the 6th busiest cargo airport in the world. If you get a piece of mail through UPS air, it's almost certainly going to go through Worldport here.

This is incredibly traffic, but it's also logistically going to be a big deal in terms of cargo and flights out of Louisville International as a whole.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:03 pm to
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MD11 is basically a coffin with wings


bullshite
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:04 pm to
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Stop politicizing these tragic deaths and pissing on their graves for the sake of some Facebook like points. It's disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.


Thank you.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:05 pm to
Your already monitoring multiple displays it would be hard to also be watching a camera. But a bright arse red light that you push to extinguish the fire is right in view.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:08 pm to
Wow. Must have passed V2 and didn’t have enough runway to abort take off so the only option was try to get her off the ground and return immediately.

That’s sad.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:09 pm to
We are very, very lucky here that it happened where it did out at the airport.

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Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:09 pm to
Possibly but I wasn't referring to just this accident. There's been wrong engines shut down, passengers having to alert flight crews of engine anomalies. Having pilots actually see the engines seems like it would be a no brainer.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:11 pm to
This is the bar that's marked on the map from when the initial explosion happened:

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Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:12 pm to
38000 gallons of fuel? That is going to burn for a while.
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:16 pm to
3 pilots, no word on ground casualties.

Left engine completely fell off during takeoff roll. Aircraft was previously on a maintenance delay for the same engine. Somebody messed up

Edit- No junpseaters, only 3 on board
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 8:21 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87518 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:17 pm to
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38000 gallons of fuel?


doubt it was full, eight hours isn’t that long of a flight for a scud but it had plenty
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:18 pm to
Just got a new Emergency Alert update:

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Shelter in place update: The shelter in place has been further revised. The new shelter in place is now from Outer Loop northbound to the Ohio River. Continue to shelter in place and avoid contact with smoke from incident near the airport. Areas south of Outer Loop are now cleared from the shelter in place.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
84928 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:19 pm to
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With no air traffic controllers to guide the planes, what could go wrong?


I don’t even think Jon Cusack could help a plane that bursts into flames on takeoff.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
70934 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Left engine completely fell off during takeoff roll. Aircraft was previously on a maintenance delay for the same engine. Somebody messed up

Yikes.
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