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re: Update: NO murder charges in Breonna Taylor death.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:48 am to Ted2010
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:48 am to Ted2010
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Over/under on percentage of the city that will be burned down?
I’ll set it at 35%
Honestly, depends on how things go. LMPD may have inadvertently pushed protestors out in the suburbs by completely locking down the downtown area where they've been for large majority of the rioting/looting that's gone on. If they stick to downtown, it'll be way under because downtown is a small chunk of Louisville Metro.
If they end up pushing it out to the suburbs, it'll get ugly quick.
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:49 am to paperwasp
I've remained unaware of the details of this story... any place to objectively read the details or a summary of this?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:50 am to teke184
They already have the city boarded up and basically on lock down..... there IS a reason they did this.... why would they do this if they were gonna charge them.....
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:51 am to DmitriKaramazov
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You consistently spew dubious half-truths on this topic. The New York Times (a left-leaning newspaper) published a lengthy investigative expose about the Taylor case. In that article, Taylor's upstairs neighbor stated that he did hear the officers shout "Police!" once before entering. Other neighbors did not recall any announcement. Whether an announcement took place is a disputed question of fact. You misleadingly present it as being settled.
It was disputed enough by multiple neighbors that the charges have been dropped on Walker. As you said, one declared they heard it. Others did not.
Walker just after also confirmed that he didn't know it was the police and suspected it was Glover (her drug dealing ex) instead.
There's no misinformation in that.
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Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, has said he heard pounding at the door, but he did not hear anyone announce they were police.He fired one shot at 12:43 a.m., according to his arrest citation, thinking intruders were breaking in.
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Those same attorneys say neighbors did not hear police announce themselves before entering.
The C-J has been pretty on top of it. I prefer them over the NYT and their "expose"
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:51 am to SirWinston
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Cuck Drew Brees
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SirWinston
Remember, you're the one watching them
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:02 am to BluegrassBelle
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I’ll be disappointed if Jaynes doesn’t receive a charge for falsifying the warrant. He was placed on “administrative reassignment” after it came out that they lied about the US Postmaster confirming suspicious packages at her apartment when that wasn’t true.
That may be so, but if half of the recently leaked info regarding the evidence presented for the warrant is true, there shouldn't be an issue with whether or not the warrant was legit.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:02 am to BluegrassBelle
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It was disputed enough by multiple neighbors that the charges have been dropped on Walker. As you said, one declared they heard it. Others did not.
The varying recollections of the neighbors should not be accorded equal weight. The neighbor who recalls the announcement had actually seen the officers prior to execution of the warrant, who had been waved him back into his apartment. He is the one neighbor who we can confirm was awake and had reason to pay full attention to ensuing events.
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Walker just after also confirmed that he didn't know it was the police and suspected it was Glover (her drug dealing ex) instead.
Walker's account isn't credible, for various reasons. First, by his own admission, he was yelling simultaneously, which could prevent him from hearing an announcement. Second, by his own admission, he was frightened, which would impact his ability to clearly perceive events. And third, of course, he has a massive incentive to lie. If the police announced and he still shot, he would face jail time.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:04 am to LegendInMyMind
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That may be so, but if half of the recently leaked info regarding the evidence presented for the warrant is true, there shouldn't be an issue with whether or not the warrant was legit.
Then why lie to have the warrant issued? If there was that much evidence legitimately there for a warrant, why lie about that detail?
This is my issue. Whether there was plenty of evidence there or not, lying to obtain a warrant is a crime. Even if it's just a "little fib".
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:09 am to DmitriKaramazov
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The varying recollections of the neighbors should not be accorded equal weight. The neighbor who recalls the announcement had actually seen the officers prior to execution of the warrant, who had been waved him back into his apartment. He is the one neighbor who we can confirm was awake and had reason to pay full attention to ensuing events.
It carried enough weight to have the charges dismissed.
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Walker's account isn't credible, for various reasons.
And yet, was still credible enough to contribute to his charges being dropped.
The original poster asked why he hadn't been arrested. He had. Apparently evidence suggested those charges weren't warranted as they were dropped.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:11 am to Walt OReilly
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I’ll be happy when I never hear her name anymore
Then don't watch any Saints games. Her name is literally on the mask Sean Payton refused to wear until he go fined.
2020 will go down as the year things were realistically so good in the US that we had to create "crises" to worry about
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:12 am to GeauxBlonde
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any place to objectively read the details or a summary of this?
No
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:13 am to BluegrassBelle
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And yet, was still credible enough to contribute to his charges being dropped.
Hopefully, you recognize that the political and social climate surrounding the events drove the charging decision to a much greater extent than the evidence.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:14 am to paperwasp
They boarded everything up wonder the verdict lol
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:18 am to paperwasp
Wonder if theres any chance of them bringing out charges against all accused to appease the masses then quietly dismissing them later
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:19 am to GeauxBlonde
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I've remained unaware of the details of this story... any place to objectively read the details or a summary of this?
This is the only place where I found the details
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:20 am to paperwasp
Only reason they may bring charges is if they are afraid of them mob
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:22 am to NawlinsTiger9
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This is the kind of thing I'd leak on Christmas morning or the day after the election or something
They did it on a workday when there's two days of work on either side to give a couple of days to calm down before everyone's off for the weekend and can riot when they're not at work.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:22 am to OysterPoBoy
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any place to objectively read the details or a summary of this?
If you can set aside the needless editorializing, the NYTimes' recitation of the facts is fairly balanced. The Louisville Courier also has some decent reportage. It's impossible to tell how the Kentucky authorities will respond to the immense public pressure they face, but if I had to speculate, I would guess they will level charges against the officer who fired into the complex while fleeing the doorway. Pure surmise, though.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:24 am to LegendInMyMind
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Why, exactly?
You shouldn’t be able to just damage property or threaten people when you don’t like something that’s happening
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:25 am to DmitriKaramazov
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In that article, Taylor's upstairs neighbor stated that he did hear the officers shout "Police!" once before entering. Other neighbors did not recall any announcement. Whether an announcement took place is a disputed question of fact. You misleadingly present it as being settled.
So I assume there was no body cam footage?
It should be a federal law that police officers are required to wear body cams 24/7 or at the very least when issuing warrants
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