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re: Update: Brittney Griner sentenced to 9 years in Russian prison on drug charges

Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:16 pm to
I feel bad for her. 9 years for weed is a joke but lets be honest she's a victim of our government's foreign policy practices and corruption.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:17 pm to
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she's a victim of our government's foreign policy practices and corruption.



bfs! she's a victim of her own ego and gross buffoonery
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:18 pm to
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It’s true. The 150 million women in this country should be watching the WNBA and going to games. But of course the Kardashians and Real Housewives of Whatever and the rapper de jour are more important


At least give the comedian you ripped this line from credit
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Let's get every US citizen out of jail in every foreign country. We are the US!



While the US can't get anyone out of jail, it is absolutely within the purview of the USG and any government to protest, especially if an arrest and conviction is politically motivated, as it definitely appears to be in this instance for a few reasons.

First, I'm pretty sure that she had less than one gram of hash oil, with the specific reference in some articles being 0.7 grams. While cannabis is illegal, it is decriminalized for under 6 grams. The bigger charge seems to be the smuggling charge, which is ridiculous on its face. Specifically, in Article 228 of the Russian Criminal Code, they say that illegal acquisition, storage, transportation, making or processing of certain substances without the purpose of sale shall have a maximum conviction period of 3 years. They also say that these deeds committed on a large scale, and then define 'large-scale' as an amount that exceeds the average one-time consumption dose by 10 times, and in very large-scale cases, the amount exceeds 50 times the one-time consumption dose.

It seems plainly obvious that this sentencing is politically motivated, as even Russian decriminalization laws allow for the amount Griner was carrying. That said, Russia regularly prosecutes people for possession without intention to sell for amounts allowed by decriminalization, which should add to further protestations.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 3:46 pm to
Someone should send her an American flag to remind her of what she spit on while here.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73757 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:09 pm to
Nobody should chance this in a foreign country, but especially one like Russia.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:25 pm to
I'm assuming incarceration at a Russian men's prison?  I don't think they care too much about personal pronouns there.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:48 pm to
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While the US can't get anyone out of jail, it is absolutely within the purview of the USG and any government to protest, especially if an arrest and conviction is politically motivated, as it definitely appears to be in this instance for a few reasons.


Now do the people in jail here for 1/6/20
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
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Now do the people in jail here for 1/6/20



Uh, do you think I support their detention? How is that remotely a response to my post? My god man.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:56 pm to
I know you don't. Just pointing out the irony of Dems saying Griner's prosecution is politically motivated while locking up people for 1/6.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:56 pm to
“That’s a man, baby.”
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:57 pm to
Well both things can be true. They aren't mutually exclusive by any means.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:58 pm to
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They aren't mutually exclusive by any means.



No but it is at the very least very hypocritical of this administration
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
Well politics, especially international politics, is full of hypocrisy. The Russians are ignoring their own laws in regard to Griner's prosecution, which begs the question as to why they wrote their laws the way they did.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:02 pm to
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Well politics, especially international politics, is full of hypocrisy. The Russians are ignoring their own laws in regard to Griner's prosecution, which begs the question as to why they wrote their laws the way they did.



Is your arguement that it is legal to commit drug trafficking in Russia?
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4978 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:02 pm to
You think if this Ukrainian war wasn’t going on she would get 9 years? For weed.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:12 pm to
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Is your arguement that it is legal to commit drug trafficking in Russia?



My argument is that according to Russian decriminalization laws, up to six grams of psychoactive substances are allowed for personal use. Griner had 0.7 grams on her from every article I can source. Russia's smuggling and trafficking laws have to do with their definition of 'large-scale,' which they define as larger than 10 times a single consumable dose. The punishment for just storage and transportation is up to 3 years according to Russian law itself, in Article 228. It only goes up in Article 228.1, which requires the same 'large-scale' definition. Unless you are telling me you consider 0.7 grams, which is supposedly allowable under Russian law, as 'large-scale,' then I have no help for you.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:23 pm to
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An excessive sentence for marijuana comparison probably isn’t the best example of American freedom given our drug policies here.


Who says it is excessive?

The first thing you best get your head wrapped around when working overseas is you are not at home and need to act accordingly.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:27 pm to
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Who says it is excessive?



Russian law itself.
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