re: UPDATE: Baby from yesterday's interstate chase has died. From a single GSW.

So, shoot for the legs, riiight?

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Always a great day when the village idiot shows his face.

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I'm not so sure you'd want the cops unloading into the vehicle if that was your baby held hostage.

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Unfortunately this is what people will focus on at the fault of the officers rather than the mad man who murdered two people and abducted him knowing he was going to use this baby as a human shield while shooting at officers.

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You're damned right. I'd rather take a bullet than shoot at a vehicle with a baby inside. I guess I'm not morally retarded enough to be a cop.

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some of those officers had rifles with scopes

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Almost no chance ANY of the officers have rifles with scopes. MAYBE "red-dot" sights, but that's not the same as a precision scope.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And quite likely (at least some of) the officers did not know there was a baby in the car, much less being used as a human shield.

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I guess I'm not morally retarded enough to be a cop

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You are definitely morally retarded, and you couldn't be a cop. You are a coward.

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I'm not so sure you'd want the cops unloading into the vehicle if that was your baby held hostage.

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Did I say anything about the baby?

I am responding to the idiocy of your post about using a sniper. As if a Sniper is readily available at all times and all locations. C'mon boy.

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You're damned right. I'd rather take a bullet than shoot at a vehicle with a baby inside.

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Nah you wouldn't. You would shoot back.

I love the virtue signaling here. Guess men aren't much different than women.

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Instead, they likely shot the baby themselves

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How do you know the baby wasn't already dead?

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How do you know the baby wasn't already dead?

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Roger....for the last fricking time. The baby was brought to the hospital alive and was in stable condition yesterday

I watched the video of the encounter when the shooting unfolds multiple times and can only conclude that this was legally a good shoot, but morally the wrong thing to do.

Everything in my background, training, and experience as a career metro Cop has taught me that our primary objective is to preserve and protect life.

Legally, the officers were allowed to use force to defend themselves when fired upon by the perp. However, morally I believe they should have not been so aggressive to approach or fail to find cover when the pursuit terminated.

The suspect vehicle was no longer mobile. Time was on their side. Negotiations were possibly already underway. If the suspect wanted to murder the child, he would have already done so.

Additional resources were quickly arriving. Every cop in this region was responding with additional tools.

It was a tough judgement call. Absent more information, I don’t think placing themselves out in the open allowing the suspect to fire upon them was the correct choice.

I could live with the thought of a homicidal manic executing an infant inside a vehicle before I had the chance to intervene much easier than I could the thought of knowing my bullets hit the child after placing myself out in the open and drawing fire.

ETA: The chase and the intel that followed it was a long event. Every cop on scene knew the vehicle was occupied with a child, the suspects previous efforts to use the child as a hostage while firing on Officers, and the location of the child in the vehicle (perps lap) prior to the pursuit terminating.