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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:54 am to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:54 am to Big Scrub TX
from google:
Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn’t involve malice aforethought—intent to seriously harm or kill, or extreme, reckless disregard for life. The absence of malice aforethought means that manslaughter involves less moral blame than either first or second degree murder. (But plenty argue that some instances of felony murder, a form of first degree murder, involve less blameworthiness than some instances of manslaughter.) Thus, while manslaughter is a serious crime, the punishment for it is generally less than that for murder.
Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn’t involve malice aforethought—intent to seriously harm or kill, or extreme, reckless disregard for life. The absence of malice aforethought means that manslaughter involves less moral blame than either first or second degree murder. (But plenty argue that some instances of felony murder, a form of first degree murder, involve less blameworthiness than some instances of manslaughter.) Thus, while manslaughter is a serious crime, the punishment for it is generally less than that for murder.
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:54 am to tiggerthetooth
Dude frick off with your preaching
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:54 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Good guys don't drunkenly kill people.
He was a good guy up until the point he killed someone.
I'd be curious to know if there were any witnesses. Was the kid with some of his friends?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:54 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Hopefully he was attacked and it was self-defense, but it doesn't look good that he was arrested initially if that were the case.
Then it becomes manslaughter for continuing to beat the guy after the threat was mitigated.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:55 am to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:55 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
he's a good guy.
Good guys don't drunkenly kill people.
That's ridiculous.
I don't know the guy, but good guys have gotten in drunken fights since the discovery of alcohol. We don't even know he started it.
Lets wait for some facts.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:55 am to Ed Osteen
quote:
Dude frick off with your preaching
And frick off with your "he's a good guy" but just happens to be wanted for murder bullshite. You sound irrational.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:56 am to tiggerthetooth
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This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:56 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:
I don't know the guy, but good guys have gotten in drunken fights since the discovery of alcohol.
And 99.9% of the fights don't end in death.
The ones that do? Someone went to prison for it if i had to guess. At least in places with competent law and order.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:56 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:
tiggerthetooth
You're a truly terrible poster. No one wants you here.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:57 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Shouldn't this be manslaughter and not murder?
From what is provided:
Elevated parking garage so there is video;
Eye witness(es) say he punched and kicked ol boy several times;
My guess is the 60 year old was down and he continued the beating clearly after there was no danger to him.
But as fricked up as the NO DAs is who knows?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:57 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:What does that have to do with anything?
from google:
Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn’t involve malice aforethought—intent to seriously harm or kill, or extreme, reckless disregard for life. The absence of malice aforethought means that manslaughter involves less moral blame than either first or second degree murder. (But plenty argue that some instances of felony murder, a form of first degree murder, involve less blameworthiness than some instances of manslaughter.) Thus, while manslaughter is a serious crime, the punishment for it is generally less than that for murder.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:57 am to tiggerthetooth
You are in here calling people dip shits for being friends with someone. Find another thread
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:58 am to Ed Osteen
quote:Yeah, no kidding. Doesn't he know the perp is white?
Dude frick off with your preaching
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:58 am to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn’t involve malice aforethought—intent to seriously harm or kill, or extreme, reckless disregard for life.
Manslaughter is if he hits the guy twice, guy falls and hits his head and dies. Once he commenced to kicking and beating the downed old man, it becomes second degree murder.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:58 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:
And 99.9% of the fights don't end in death.
The ones that do? Someone went to prison for it if i had to guess. At least in places with competent law and order.
This could've been like any other of the 99.99% of fights except one punch hit the exact wrong way on the skull by chance and the guy died.
Good guys get in drunk fights all the time. Any of them could have bad luck and kill a person.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:59 am to PapaPogey
quote:
frick you
Why because I think even being accused of murder is bad?
Good people very very very very very rarely get accused of murder. Just saying.
If that hurts your feelings, maybe you need to reevaluate what you think a good person does.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:00 pm to tiggerthetooth
Lets wait Till The facts come out.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:00 pm to Tigeralum2008
quote:
Question for the lawyers:
Shouldn't this be manslaughter and not murder?
No way there was premeditiation right?
Depends on the facts but there is no premeditation standard in Louisiana. It is specific intent.
This charge hasn't been levied by the DA so it might change but they can charge Second Degree and give the option to the jury of finding lesser degrees
Posted on 1/23/18 at 12:01 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
This could've been like any other of the 99.99% of fights except one punch hit the exact wrong way on the skull by chance and the guy died.
So he continued to kick him on the ground?
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