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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now

Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:32 pm to
for attention? you think they asked for this?

what kind of attention are you meaning? if it's to continue treatment for their child then sure.

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Either the parents are ignorant and won't allow themselves to fully understand the scope of his brain loss, or they are selfish, and are willing to let their own child suffer.


how do you know they are suffering? the alternative is fatal.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:21 pm to
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for attention? you think they asked for this? 

what kind of attention are you meaning? if it's to continue treatment for their child then sure. 

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Either the parents are ignorant and won't allow themselves to fully understand the scope of his brain loss, or they are selfish, and are willing to let their own child suffer.

how do you know they are suffering? the alternative is fatal.


I still don't think you understand. What do you assume "treatment" will do? Treatment for what? The child no longer has a functioning brain beyond small eye movements, he is literally a vegetable as a baby... There is no reversing the damage this child has, he will not ever regain anything beyond what he can do now.
What about that doesn't anyone understand?

This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:27 pm to
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But the fact is, there is NO coming back from the type of damage the child has. It is ignorant to say there is any way to "save" this child...
The damage was done long before he was off of life support... He isn't even that child anymore in a medical sense.


You seem to know more than the UK doctors. What is your diagnosis based on your evaluation of this child?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:28 pm to
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But the fact is, there is NO coming back from the type of damage the child has. It is ignorant to say there is any way to "save" this child...
The damage was done long before he was off of life support... He isn't even that child anymore in a medical sense.
This is literally just a situation of baby hospice.
Like I said... It SUCKS, but would you be willing to torture YOUR child?
Either the parents are ignorant and won't allow themselves to fully understand the scope of his brain loss, or they are selfish, and are willing to let their own child suffer.
Possibly even doing it for the attention, which would be pretty sad in itself.
once again, WHO CARES? The parents are the child's care giver. They decide how to proceed with their child's health care. The UK can't force them to accept their ruling outside of the country. That makes no sense. The UK can't tell these parents what they can and can't do with their child in regards to things outside of the UK. Which is exactly what they're doing
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:28 pm to
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He's not in a coma, or fighting infection. He has lost SIGNIFICANT brain activity... That does not return, no matter what kind of treatment or life support he may be on.


Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:32 pm to
LINKPolish doctor disagrees with UK doctors.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 pm to
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You seem to know more than the UK doctors. What is your diagnosis based on your evaluation of this child?


I never said I knew more, or had a diagnosis? They have done several scans showing large areas of permanent brain damage.
Think of your brain cells as a light bulb, once the filament goes out, that's fricking it...
People aren't "treated" for brain damage. There is literally no treatment that could possible give him an quality of life.

If you would simply read instead of whining like an "SJW" you would get it.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 pm to
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Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.


Once again... I'll say it slow this time... So you can understand...
There. is. no. treatment. for. permanent. brain. damage.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.


Once again... I'll say it slow this time... So you can understand...
There. is. no. treatment. for. permanent. brain. damage.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.


Once again... I'll say it slow this time... So you can understand...
There. is. no. treatment. for. permanent. brain. damage.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.


Once again... I'll say it slow this time... So you can understand...
There. is. no. treatment. for. permanent. brain. damage.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Actually he is no longer on "life support". He was taken off yet continued respiration on his own. Therefore we don't know what kind of treatment/recovery may be possible.


Once again... I'll say it slow this time... So you can understand...
There. is. no. treatment. for. permanent. brain. damage.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71214 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:54 pm to
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If you would simply read instead of whining like an "SJW" you would get it.




Lol wut. I'm not whining dummy. There are disputes about this kid's prognosis. The parents want to leave the UK to seek a possible alternative to their child dying. a-hole doctors and frickwad judge don't want their diagnosis to be proven wrong, so they fight it.

You sound like an idiot talking out of his arse to save face.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1065 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:13 pm to
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Lol wut. I'm not whining dummy. There are disputes about this kid's prognosis. The parents want to leave the UK to seek a possible alternative to their child dying. a-hole doctors and frickwad judge don't want their diagnosis to be proven wrong, so they fight it. 

You sound like an idiot talking out of his arse to save face.


The only dispute comes from a polish doctor, hired by the family, and his argument is completely based on the parents assumptions

Like I said, they should have just let the child go off to die in italy. That was a mistake with social media and the "snowball" effect. I'm not disputing that, but without seeing the scans, this guy couldn't possibly know the extent of damage done to the brain...
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16616 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:30 pm to
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People aren't "treated" for brain damage


Well that's just patently false; people devote their entire lives/careers to doing just that.

Also, quintuple post? Actually impressed.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:52 pm to
Be careful. They are "monitoring your posts". - signed UK overlords
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:54 pm to
man it’s like you didn’t read any of this thread at all

Your points have been addressed over and over and over. You obscure the real issue here and it’s that the government shouldn’t step in and hold this child hostage when his parents want to pursue treatment, even if just palliative, elsewhere.

It’s a gross overreach of government power. Surely that isn’t that hard to grasp why.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Buckwheat35
Member since Apr 2018
260 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:54 am to
What is it that you need to see besides stating a very literal tone of wanting to read an unbiased account.

Tell me, what would the other side look like to you?

You make little sense in any argumentative sense outside trying to imitate intellectual honesty.

Kid is alive. He is responsive and another nation wishes to help and believes it can. What is so detrimental here that it could not be done?

Now let me ask you, if this were Prince Harry's child, do you think the same laws would apply?

Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15199 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 6:42 am to
fricking scumbag cocksuckers.

That's where to this country if the Dems have their way.
Hell one of our states thinks aborting a 3rd trimester baby is magnificent.

May those dr's and the judge burn in hell.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 9:02 am
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