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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:43 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:43 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
You should go to the UK and protest.
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:43 am to Ross
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It seems this board has actually come to a rare unanimous consensus on an issue.
Never thought I'd see the day.
And all it took was...
quote:
The UK is murdering a little baby right now
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:44 am to Ross
quote:True, but people have still found a way to get mad at each other even while actually agreeing
It seems this board has actually come to a rare unanimous consensus on an issue.
Let ask another tough hypothetical though:
SHould the govt be able to step in and FORCE medical care on a child? Lets say a child has a sicnkess that can easily be treated by modern medicine, but the parents dont believe in doing so. Is everyone now team government?
I am not asking for the actual law, just everyones opinion on what should happen
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:45 am to lsupride87
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SHould the govt be able to step in and FORCE medical care on a child? Lets say a child has a sicnkess that can easily be treated by modern medicine, but the parents dont believe in doing so. Is everyone now team government
That's really not the same thing. What you're describing is actual abuse.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:47 am to Ross
quote:And when the government has to pay for the health care.
it's a good example of what happens when a government has too much power over the citizenry
They want to kill the kid. The parents don't want to. How is it possible that the judge agrees with killing him?
I can see it the other way around. The parents want to kill him, but the doctors want to keep fighting. SO, the judge sides with life.
The additional part that is messed up.... if they don't want to pay for continued treatment. Fine. Just release him. If you think he'll die because of the lack of treatment, how is that any different than stopping treatment. Why does he have to be ordered to stay by armed guard to die?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:47 am to Big_Slim
I think Pettifogger (which is an incredibly ironic name considering his stance in this thread) nailed it, you have to concisely state the root issue
The root issue I think is clearly "Should the state have the power to make health care decisions for it's citizens and take the right away from parents with good intentions and means to search for health care"
And instead of a simple black/white question, it can easily transform into a question in which there is a threshold.
However, in this very specific instance, it seems for most it is a black/white issue and the answer is "No, the state should not remove the right of the parents to find alternative treatment for their child".
The root issue I think is clearly "Should the state have the power to make health care decisions for it's citizens and take the right away from parents with good intentions and means to search for health care"
And instead of a simple black/white question, it can easily transform into a question in which there is a threshold.
However, in this very specific instance, it seems for most it is a black/white issue and the answer is "No, the state should not remove the right of the parents to find alternative treatment for their child".
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:47 am to LNCHBOX
Where did I even remotely say it's the same thing?
Sometimes you really are dickish as all get out
Sometimes you really are dickish as all get out
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:48 am to lsupride87
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Where did I even remotely say it's the same thing?
Sometimes you really are dickish as all get out
Did I say you did? Pretty funny you're calling me the dick when you're the one that just got angry for a simple response.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:49 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Now, the country says it will file a murder claim against officials in the United Kingdom if Evans isn’t released to Rome for treatment.
Would be even better if the Sicilians provided justice.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:51 am to Mahootney
quote:oh GTFO with that nonsense you paranoid whacko
They want to kill the kid.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:51 am to lsupride87
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Sometimes
Wasn't there a case in the US recently where parents had their kids taken away because they refused to get them any medical treatment, to the point where one died due to a common cold or something similar?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:52 am to LSUBoo
Yeah they were like praying the sickness away.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:55 am to TH03
I'm not saying I disagree, but I find it interesting the government can force parents to give their children medicine and surgery
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:56 am to lsupride87
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but I find it interesting the government can force parents to give their children medicine and surgery
You don't see the difference in ending life as opposed to protecting it? You really find that interesting?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:58 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes I see the difference you dick
You don't see the difference in ending life as opposed to protecting it?
quote:And yes I find it interesting how myself, and others who seem to be anti govt, are completely ok with forcing parents to give medicine and surgery to their children
you really find that interesting?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:59 am to lsupride87
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And yes I find it interesting how myself, and others who seem to be anti govt, are completely ok with forcing parents to give medicine and surgery to their children
the answers to these questions tend to be much more complex than people want to admit
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:00 pm to lsupride87
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And yes I find it interesting how myself, and others who seem to be anti govt, are completely ok with forcing parents to give medicine and surgery to their children
If your definition of anti-government is no government at all, I guess I can see this. I assumed you were trying to have a rational discussion and not one that was focused on one unrealistic extreme or the other.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:01 pm to Ross
quote:Yep. That is my point
the answers to these questions tend to be much more complex than people want to admit
But dick lnch is about to give me four laughing emojis
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:02 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:God, your posting just wreaks of douche bag sometimes
If your definition of anti-government is no government at all, I guess I can see this. I assumed you were trying to have a rational discussion and not one that was focused on one unrealistic extreme or the other.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:02 pm to lsupride87
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God, your posting just wreaks of douche bag sometimes
From you, that literally means nothing.
Perfect case in point:
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But dick lnch
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm
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