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re: UPDATE 4/26 -Just In Case the OT Didn't Know - The UK is murdering a little baby right now
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm to TH03
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm to TH03
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Don't think the britbongs have the 2nd amendment, baw.
Well I know that, but you see a concerted effort from the left right now to try and restrict the second amendment.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm to lsupride87
Because you aren't anti government.
Most conservatives are anti certain government. Which isn't wrong, unless you act like you're strictly anti government.
Most conservatives are anti certain government. Which isn't wrong, unless you act like you're strictly anti government.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:04 pm to LNCHBOX
Ok. Well let's let others chime in then
The fact we are ok with the govt playing moral champions sometimes, and not other times , just shows the own complex hypocritical nature we all have as humans
The fact we are ok with the govt playing moral champions sometimes, and not other times , just shows the own complex hypocritical nature we all have as humans
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:05 pm to lsupride87
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The fact we are ok with the govt playing moral champions sometimes, and not other times , just shows the own complex hypocritical nature we all have as humans
It's not hypocritical unless you are anti-government on everything. Almost no one is.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:05 pm to lsupride87
He isn't really saying anything particularly offensive or mean.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:05 pm to TH03
quote:I am saying I do in fact find it hypocritical we are ok with the govt forcing medical care on a child
Because you aren't anti government.
Most conservatives are anti certain government. Which isn't wrong, unless you act like you're strictly anti government.
I am 100% admitting that is a hypocritical viewpoint I have based on personal feelings
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:05 pm to TH03
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Because you aren't anti government.
Most conservatives are anti certain government. Which isn't wrong, unless you act like you're strictly anti government.
Ding ding ding, but I'm just being a dick
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:07 pm to TH03
Yeah, there is a difference between "conservative" and "anarchist". Even libertarians aren't anti-all government. They just strive for the minimally invasive government.
As part of such a world view, you try and craft boundaries where the state's power should not cross. Again, I think at least one line was drawn and unilaterally agreed upon in this thread in that the state should not have 30 armed guards preventing the parents of an ill child from searching for healthcare in other places that are willing to try and give that healthcare and transportation to get there.
As part of such a world view, you try and craft boundaries where the state's power should not cross. Again, I think at least one line was drawn and unilaterally agreed upon in this thread in that the state should not have 30 armed guards preventing the parents of an ill child from searching for healthcare in other places that are willing to try and give that healthcare and transportation to get there.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:08 pm to lsupride87
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That precedent has already been set The govt here in america is even allowed to remove children from their parents care and decisions....
Jesus Christ, you’re an idiot.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:08 pm to lsupride87
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The fact we are ok with the govt playing moral champions sometimes, and not other times , just shows the own complex hypocritical nature we all have as humans
There are certain things that need to be protected by our government and others that are government overreach.
2nd amendment for instance is a protected right.
Forcing a private business to acquiesce to some attention whore open carrying an AR just to get a reaction would be government overreach.
Certainly you can determine which one of these an "anti government" person would support.
It doesn't make him a hypocrite. It makes him someone who realizes government is a necessity but needs limitations.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:09 pm to BayouBengals18
quote:Please explain what you think I said there
Jesus Christ, you’re an idiot.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:09 pm to BayouBengals18
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Jesus Christ, you’re an idiot.
Pride, this is what you think lnch is saying to you.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:10 pm to TH03
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Pride, this is what you think lnch is saying to you.
I'm getting close to it, but I know he's doing this on purpose.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:10 pm to lsupride87
quote:this isn't a place for philosophical discussion
lsupride87
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:11 pm to TH03
quote:I didn't mean I think if you beleive the govt should exist at all you are a hypocrite as a conservative
There are certain things that need to be protected by our government and others that are government overreach.
2nd amendment for instance is a protected right.
Forcing a private business to acquiesce to some attention whore open carrying an AR just to get a reaction would be government overreach.
Certainly you can determine which one of these an "anti government" person would support.
It doesn't make him a hypocrite. It makes him someone who realizes government is a necessity but needs limitations.
I meant I feel this could be an example of us being hypocrites and being in support of a law simply for personal feelings
Maybe it isn't, just was discussing
A more clear example is conservatives liking the smoking ban on restaurants......That is obviously a far more clear example
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:12 pm to lsupride87
16 pages in
cant be having people agreeing with us!
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It seems this board has actually come to a rare unanimous consensus on an issue.
True, but people have still found a way to get mad at each other even while actually agreeing
cant be having people agreeing with us!
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Let ask another tough hypothetical though:
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:12 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:Apparantly not
this isn't a place for philosophical discussion
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:17 pm to Ross
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Even libertarians aren't anti-all government.
Well a political party believing in anti-all government is pretty detrimental to the party's survival.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:18 pm to lsupride87
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I meant I feel this could be an example of us being hypocrites and being in support of a law simply for personal feelings
There has to be a point where we as a society protect some of the most vulnerable of our members, the children. Denying a child medical attention they need is child abuse. If their parents are abusing them, no one has the ability and authority to protect them but the government.
This is one of those that falls into the necessary government column.
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A more clear example is conservatives liking the smoking ban on restaurants......That is obviously a far more clear example
Not at all because that becomes a battle of my personal freedoms vs a smoker's personal freedoms. It also involves the freedoms of the waiters and bartenders. That's a separate discussion entirely. Although I admit, while I like the result of smoking bans, it should be up to the establishment.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:19 pm to LSUBoo
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Well a political party believing in anti-all government is pretty detrimental to the party's survival.
You could take the Ron Swanson approach and try to bring it all crumbling to the ground from the inside
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