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re: UPDATE 265 Class Liftboat capsizes . New survivor story. Page 77
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:13 am to Bigfishchoupique
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:13 am to Bigfishchoupique
Update from the local news source Lafourche Gazette as of about an hour ago...prayers for all involved
Lafourche Gazette coverage of accident
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Six have been rescued, but 13 remain missing from a capsized vessel in the Gulf just south of Grand Isle.
The vessel left around 2 p.m., yesterday, and according to the United States Coast Guard, it capsized near 4 p.m. in incredibly rough seas and winds that many near Grand Isle said were reminiscent of a hurricane with 70+ mph winds and extremely rough seas.
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Search efforts remain for the other 13 who are believed to still be in the water.
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Rescue efforts have been challenging. A chopper was scheduled to assist last night, but had to be called off because of winds that were near tropical storm force throughout the night. And one Good Samaritan told The Gazette this morning that the seas are "crazy rough."
Lafourche Gazette coverage of accident
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:24 am to Ol boy
And if the captain/crew is deceased, the company men can say what they want if they choose to.
My heart breaks for all involved.
My heart breaks for all involved.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:29 am to tiger91
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And if the captain/crew is deceased, the company men can say what they want if they choose to.
There’s logs and radio Transmissions to back everything up. Everything is documented from the time they leave they have traffic that they have to contact other vessels and traffic control in the port.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:30 am to tiger91
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And if the captain/crew is deceased, the company men can say what they want if they choose to
Yeah but a vessel this size it’s not just a seat of the pants decision. Port captain/production company logistics will all be copied on discussion to sail or not.
And yes it’s heartbreaking and a reminder of what we signed up to do when we leave every hitch.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:33 am to weskarl
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Rotated & flipped, looks like the starboard leg above water, entire living quarters/helm under water:
Yeah bad deal. I've talked to some surveyors who are telling me 130 Mhr winds recorded nearby. Microcell burst.
I know of a Liftboat that went over south of GI a couple years back and they ended up sinking it because the salvage crews were having issues raising and retrieving.
Jacking down a lift platform of this size takes a while even with seafloor reads at the ready. They have to jack down then perform certainty procedures to ensure stable footing and hold. Punchthroughs can happen on the legs even with the large pads and floor soundings.
I would imagine all of the crew were inside the quarters at the time. Terrifying to be trapped in and not be able to get out. Once a an edge goes under the lifted legs and weight will flip the vessel/platform over pretty fast.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:35 am to Ol boy
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Final say so is always the captain
Same with air travel. Left seat always has the final say on go/no go.
As someone posted earlier, I think the weather turned to shite unexpectedly and these poor chaps were victims of the circumstances. Hope they are all found safe.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:37 am to Ol boy
As a lay person, I'd be worried about someone covering their asses to not have to pay out should it come to that.
And yes, we all know the inherent risk of what we do but damn. I'm really wanting to cry for these people and their families.
And yes, we all know the inherent risk of what we do but damn. I'm really wanting to cry for these people and their families.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:41 am to tiger91
There’s this thing called The Jones Act. Every single person on that vessel will be getting paid whether they survived or not.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:42 am to tiger91
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As a lay person, I'd be worried about someone covering their asses to not have to pay out should it come to that.
There will be recordings and records. Unfortunately you have a vessel/platform moving at a snails pace when a microburst pops up and the unstable platform can do nothing but flounder about. It will go back to safety procedures and what call should be with forecasting available. Even if everyone made the right call then disasters can happen like this one. Making the right and safe call 100% of the time only decreases chances, never completely avoidable at sea.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:54 am to UpToPar
There were three guys hanging on last night. One had a handheld radio talking to coast guard. I will spare the guys name they were talking to out of respect for the family. But I will say this. Coast guard had the opportunity to rescue those guys last night. If that is the case, They failed. One of the 45 foot cg boats went in to port and refused to come back out because “they were shaken”. 2 guys more than likely lost their lives last night due to in my opinion a failure of the coast guard. I understand not putting others at risk but I’m sorry this is what you’ve trained for your whole career. You were someone’s final hope and your words to them were “just keep holding on”. Very sad situation all around.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:56 am to LetzGeaux
Have they said who the boat was contracted to?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:59 am to LetzGeaux
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There were three guys hanging on last night. One had a handheld radio talking to coast guard. I will spare the guys name they were talking to out of respect for the family. But I will say this. Coast guard had the opportunity to rescue those guys last night. They failed. One of the 45 foot cg boats went in to port and refused to come back out because “they were shaken”. 2 guys more than likely lost their lives last night due to in my opinion a failure of the coast guard. I understand not putting others at risk but I’m sorry this is what you’ve trained for your whole career. You were someone’s final hope and your words to them were “just keep holding on”. Very sad situation all around.
I can't imagine watching the GC leave me in the GOM. How horrible. Jesus Christ this is awful.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:00 am to GREENHEAD22
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Have they said who the boat was contracted to?
Not that I've seen. It's unusual we have the vessel owner at this time. Generally they don't report that much less a contractor. Maybe Arena? Talos? Fieldwood is still in Bankruptcy I think.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:01 am to LetzGeaux
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One of the 45 foot cg boats went in to port and refused to come back out because “they were shaken”.
Oh ffs. That was a MLB that I saw in a picture near the rig. Those things are self-righting and basically unsinkable if properly battened down. If that actually happened, that's inexcusable. That is precisely what those boats are built for and what the crew is trained for. Unexpected shite in bad weather and bad seas and no visibility.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:08 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yea if that's true that seems like border dereliction of duty.
I guess the cg isn't immune from the "progressive" agenda that is overtaking the armed forces.
I guess the cg isn't immune from the "progressive" agenda that is overtaking the armed forces.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:11 am to GREENHEAD22
Likely a bunch of green hands that are still training.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:19 am to Bigfishchoupique
SIAP but I don't think this photo was out last night.
From the DM site this was the Coast Guard rescue
From the DM site this was the Coast Guard rescue
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:20 am to GREENHEAD22
It is without a shadow of a doubt true. The helo pilot even asked them if he heard correctly they are not coming back out. You could hear the disgust in the pilots voice and he told them ok call Nola sector and let them know you are not returning. I used to have all the respect in the world for the cg. After hearing that last night heads better roll. Let me stop before I get myself too deep and say things that get me in a bind. This one cuts deep.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:20 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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That is precisely what those boats are built for and what the crew is trained for. Unexpected shite in bad weather and bad seas and no visibility.
Shows wind speeds of 14mph at 1900hrs at the Galliano airport. Surely it was worse conditions that caused them to to not return. I mean hell the video of them on-site right after the sinking should have been the worst of it and sea conditions only improving?!!
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