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re: Up For Auction Ex-James Garner/AIR 1968 Chevrolet Corvette L88 Race Car

Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Have you been driving yours this Summer?

Hey, it was in the body/paint shop for 3 weeks this spring. Had an electric security gate close on the passenger side door. Two 3' scrapes across it. Luckily, it only got to the primer, no skin damage. Painter had pure hell matching it. He ended up calling in a buddy from out of town and they finally got a perfect match. The facility owners paid for the work.
I have had it out and about since then. No issues since.
Yours? Are you on the road with yours yet? I have been following your progress on the CF and it looked to be getting close.

Gaps? St Louis Factory: Does the door close? Yes. Does it lock and unlock? Yes. Send it down the line, there's more coming behind it!
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 1:40 pm
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:53 pm to
Paul Newman won four National Championships as a driver in the Sports Car Club of America (SCCA), and in 1979, Paul Newman finished second over all in the 24 Hours of Le Mans race. Paul is tops.

Also Winning: The Racing Life of Paul Newman pretty damn good movie.
Oh, and another plus for Newman. His wife went to LSU.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Hey, it was in the body/paint shop for 3 weeks this spring. Had an electric security gate close on the passenger side door. Two 3' scrapes across it. Luckily, it only got to the primer, no skin damage. Painter had pure hell matching it. He ended up calling in a buddy from out of town and they finally got a perfect match. The facility owners paid for the work. I have had it out and about since then. No issues since.


oh man, that sucks. It’s never fun trying to match paint, especially if it’s an older paint job.

I did briefly, and mean very briefly. I got her all buttoned up, made her appointment to get it aligned, took her out for a shakedown run and stalled on me....immediately thought fuel. Car sat for about five years, moved around, but not driven, just moved around paint booth. I also have a small electrical issue where is staying hot after I turn off the ignition so I’m just going to bite the bullet and have the shop look at both. I changed the fuel filter, comes up to pressure, but will not maintain. So likely fuel pump..

Earliest available window is early July, I hate having to pay someone when I know I could figure it out, but I’m just going to pay the piper this time. I’m ready to drive her.

quote:

Gaps? St Louis Factory: Does the door close? Yes. Does it lock and unlock? Yes. Send it down the line, there's more coming behind it!


100% spot on
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:13 pm to
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I hate having to pay someone when I know I could figure it out,

Same here. The only thing I have had done outside was the trail arms. I removed and reinstalled but I wanted them completely gone through.

Electrical issues can be a pain. Spent a whole day trying to find bad wire on a buddy's 65. At least the beer was cold....
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:15 pm to
He did the “J turns” himself.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:16 pm to
The year the Corvette started going down
Posted by Big Block Stingray
Top down on open road
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:33 pm to
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The year the Corvette started going down

68-72 are still sought after. Many will agree styling/ performance took a nose dive around 75/76 during the fuel crunch.

69 was the pinnacle of different powertrain options.

This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Steve Paul Jim
When movie stars were cool.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65565 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:51 pm to
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L88
That's the one you want.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11747 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:53 pm to
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I also have a small electrical issue where is staying hot after I turn off the ignition


I love just about anything made from 1965-75, but I break out in hives when I think of anything electrically related on ~50 year old cars. Had a beautiful black on black with white top '70 convertible Deville 20 years ago. I knew it was going to have problems when I saw at purchase the owner had installed a second battery, Throw in it was power everything and required a direct strike from a nuclear warhead to turn over the 472ci engine and it was a nightmare.

I threw hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars at getting a constant voltage draw debugged and it was still there when I sold it five years later. The next one I own I will treat like a boat. I am stripping every inch of wire and every electrical device and starting from scratch.

Good luck with the Vette! Sounds like a fun project and badass car.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39659 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:57 pm to
I give Steve the nod for making movies just to get money to race, and for racing with a broken ankle with sandpaper taped to his boot so he could shift.

Paul didn't start really racing until later in life and had much more resources.

Both were racer's racers.

I'll concede the point.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39659 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:57 pm to
Yep
Posted by guzziguy
Lake Forest
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 3:18 pm to
I enjoy perusing TD.
Any chance of a Automobile/Motorcycle forum being created?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 3:45 pm to
Steve gets a lot of credit for finishing second at Sebring, but Peter Revson drove the vast majority of that race.
Not knocking McQueen, as he was a solid driver, but Mario Andretti acknowledged that Revson drove a hell of a race.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
26412 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 3:51 pm to
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69 was the pinnacle of different powertrain options.


Sure was. There were eight engine options offered (actually nine, but the LT1 was held back to the next year and none installed from the factory).
Can you imagine any manufacturer offering eight engines on any single platform today?
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Big Block Stingray
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:07 am to
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Can you imagine any manufacturer offering eight engines on any single platform today?


A flavor for every palate....

The cost today to offer that would be insane.
Posted by Big Block Stingray
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:11 am to
Unbeknownst to me, James Gardner made a documentary film the late 60s similar to McQueen’s Le Man's. Here it is, lots of cool vintage race cars.

“The Racing Scene”

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:12 am to
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Can you imagine any manufacturer offering eight engines on any single platform today?


Most I can think of now is 6. And that’s full sized domestic GM trucks. And arguably the 3 gas V8s are all the same engine with a different stroke…

So really it’s 4.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 7:18 am
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:17 am to
Here's the engines offered with the 69 Corvette. GM was conservative with the L71, L88 & ZL1 advertised HP numbers because of Govt and insurance concerns at the time.

HP/ RPO

Small Block
300 Base Motor
350 L46 Q-Jet Carb
370 LT1 * solid lifter, Holley Carb

Big Block
390 L36 Q-Jet Carb
400 L68 Holley TriPower Carbs, hyd lifter
430** L88 Aluminum cylinder heads Single Holley Carb
430** ZL1 Aluminum cylinder heads & block, Single Holley Carb
435 L71 Holley TriPower Carbs, solid lifter
435 L71/L89 Same as L71 but with aluminum cylinder head option


*LT1 was offered but was held back to the next year. None were delivered from the factory.

** As advertised, but was closer to 550.



Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:30 am to
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HP/ RPO

Small Block
300 Base Motor
350 L46 Q-Jet Carb
370 LT1 * solid lifter, Holley Carb

Big Block
390 L36 Q-Jet Carb
400 L68 Holley TriPower Carbs, hyd lifter
430** L88 Aluminum cylinder heads Single Holley Carb
430** ZL1 Aluminum cylinder heads & block, Single Holley Carb
435 L71 Holley TriPower Carbs, solid lifter
435 L71/L89 Same as L71 but with aluminum cylinder head option


*LT1 was offered but was held back to the next year. None were delivered from the factory.

** As advertised, but was closer to 550.


This is so effing cool. If I recall correctly, the small block and big block engine families all shared a common architecture with different heads, cams, carbs, and even bore/stroke depending on the application. They were in almost every vehicle GM sold, and the volume justified all those different varients.

The customers were lucky back then to have so many V8 options.

Then we went into the 1980s and 1990s with 3800 V6s, 3.1L, 3.4L, 4.3L, Quad 4s, crappy Ecotec 4 bangers, and their full suite of V8 engines + newer diesels .....all paired up to several transmission options each. It got too complex and too diverse to be competitive with all of them. If you stuck to the 3800 or the small block, you got a decent vehicle. The others were more risky.

We are headed to a point where V8 engines are being regulated out of existance. I'm glad GM is sticking to them at least for one more generation.

Eventually when we move to EVs, companies will offer just one "motor" option with the customers choosing between single, dual or triple motored cars. In a way that scalability is probably why GM has invested so much into EV's. It's a return to a time when a single chassis and propulsion setup could be in nearly every vehicle they produce in some way.
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 8:40 am
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