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Unspoken rules about Employment
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:11 pm
These are mostly antecedent observations.
1. Are women primarily used as recruiters? I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
2. We normally say Louisiana doesn't have enough businesses. But how do you quantify the amount of business we should have? Is it based on the number of college graduates per year?
As a sidebar, I dont believe you should tie TOPs or any scholarships to a "work in the state" rule until you fix these limited job opportunities.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:12 pm to volod
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I dont believe you should tie TOPs or any scholarships to a "work in the state" rule
The state of Texas agrees.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:16 pm to volod
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But how do you quantify the amount of business we should have?
Based on tax dollars collected from the state Government would be one way, but not the best. You couldnt quantify it in # of businesses because business A could do $100,000 in sales a year, but business B could do $100MM a year, but they are still one business each.
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Is it based on the number of college graduates per year?
Partially, but I dont believe so.
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I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
I think it is in most areas of recruitment/sales.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:26 pm to volod
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1. Are women primarily used as recruiters? I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
In consulting I've seen a bit of both. Though for the past few years we've only had one recruiter in the local office and it's been a female. She replaced a male recruiter that moved on to relocate to another region and company.
As for LA businesses, there is a huge lack of large biz HQ's in LA. And also it needs to go beyond college grads. College grads are typically starting out at the bottom of their respective careers. I stayed in LA for 2 years after graduating but had an opportunity to move up and out but now that I am mid-career I have no incentive to come back.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:28 pm to darnol91
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I think it is in most areas of recruitment/sales.
I think different industries skew different ways. Oil field supplies, skews male.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:39 pm to volod
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2. We normally say Louisiana doesn't have enough businesses. But how do you quantify the amount of business we should have? Is it based on the number of college graduates per year?
I'll use my field (accounting) as an example.
We have a highly ranked accounting department in LA at UNO. We have very, very good accounting departments at LSU, Tulane, Southeastern, and Loyola.
These 5 schools produce a high number of high quality accounting graduates every year.
There is nowhere near enough open positions for entry level accounting grads on an annual basis. In some places, firms and large companies hire dozens of such grads out of each class. Here, if you want to stay local (even working for a Big Four firm, but in the local office mainly) it's just a few positions.
Now compare to Houston, for example. UNO/LSU/SLU/Tulane/Loyola put out more combined accounting grads, per year, than Texas/A&M/Rice/UH. However, firms and large companies in Houston need dozens and dozens of grads, each year, per firm/company.
So, South LA is producing more accounting grads than we have jobs for, and Houston area has many more entry level accounting jobs, than grads to fill those roles.
So to me, to quantify, it would be "enough business to where every South LA accounting grad can get an accounting job in South LA after graduation"
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:48 pm to volod
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TOPs or any scholarships to a "work in the state" rule until you fix these limited job opportunities.
"TOPS, educating the Texas workforce and beyond since 1998"
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
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I'll use my field (accounting) as an example.
We have a highly ranked accounting department in LA at UNO. We have very, very good accounting departments at LSU, Tulane, Southeastern, and Loyola.
These 5 schools produce a high number of high quality accounting graduates every year.
There is nowhere near enough open positions for entry level accounting grads on an annual basis. In some places, firms and large companies hire dozens of such grads out of each class. Here, if you want to stay local (even working for a Big Four firm, but in the local office mainly) it's just a few positions.
Now compare to Houston, for example. UNO/LSU/SLU/Tulane/Loyola put out more combined accounting grads, per year, than Texas/A&M/Rice/UH. However, firms and large companies in Houston need dozens and dozens of grads, each year, per firm/company.
So, South LA is producing more accounting grads than we have jobs for, and Houston area has many more entry level accounting jobs, than grads to fill those roles.
So to me, to quantify, it would be "enough business to where every South LA accounting grad can get an accounting job in South LA after graduation"
I always told myself that I wish I would have did Accounting (early in my undergraduate experience I was only interested in science and technology).
I think the question should start with is "What fields do we have a demand for"?
After that, focus on retaining and recruiting businesses for those fields.
Why hasn't a Republican Governor or Mayor done this?
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:56 pm to volod
quote:Of course.
1. Are women primarily used as recruiters?
One of my favorite parts of my job is how many LinkedIn messages I get from hot chicks wanting to meet to sell me on using their recruiting firms.
If they offer to meet over lunch, i accept every time...with no intentions of ever using their services. Is that bad? Should I not do that? Probably, but I'll still do it.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:59 pm to volod
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1. Are women primarily used as recruiters? I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
Recruiting is a sales job, and you want good-looking women in those positions.
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2. We normally say Louisiana doesn't have enough businesses.
Southern Law graduates don't find work out of state, so they open their own firms in state instead.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:04 pm to volod
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2. We normally say Louisiana doesn't have enough businesses. But how do you quantify the amount of business we should have? Is it based on the number of college graduates per year?
I think it’s more about the diversification of industry and business. Our economy is based more on the O&G industry. There aren’t a whole lot of Fortune 500 companies in LA outside of O&G that provide white collar job opportunities.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:37 pm to foshizzle
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Southern Law graduates don't find work out of state, so they open their own firms in state instead.
I never did Southern Law, so I wouldn't know.
But I was speaking in more general terms. As someone stated, outside of O &G (which is predominately south LA hands down) the white collar job market is hit or miss. I'm from Cenla and I can tell you outside of medical you have few options.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:03 pm to volod
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I think the question should start with is "What fields do we have a demand for"?
After that, focus on retaining and recruiting businesses for those fields.
Why hasn't a Republican Governor or Mayor done this?
Some of this is happening in the plant industry. All these refineries need qualified workers, and they are getting with the local 2 year schools to develop training programs and helping grads find jobs.
Recruiting business isn't as easy as it sounds. All of the same problems we know we have (poverty, crime, bad public schools, infrastructure, etc) are reasons businesses don't want to relocate here.
And, by and large, when we do have a business from here, that makes it big, they either get bought out or move HQ out of state, because they can't get execs to move here.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:14 pm to volod
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1. Are women primarily used as recruiters? I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
See: Drug reps.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:21 pm to volod
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Are women primarily used as recruiters? I noticed alot of relatively attractive women work in recruiting and real estate. Is this the norm in most businesses.
Also in media & advertising.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:24 pm to LSUAngelHere1
We have two types of sales people:
Sales - hot woman who can get a meeting with the decision maker (mostly men)
Technical Sales - man that actually knows what he’s talking about
Sales - hot woman who can get a meeting with the decision maker (mostly men)
Technical Sales - man that actually knows what he’s talking about
Posted on 12/5/18 at 2:25 pm to yellowfin
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Sales - hot woman who can get a meeting with the decision maker (mostly men)
Men are so simple.
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