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University Degrees - Why the structural redundancy with a HS diploma?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:51 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:51 am
Never made sense to me why general course credits are required in most University degree programs, ie, those redundant with high school (eg, Algebra, English, American History, etc)?
I like to UK model of a 3-year University degree. It’s more efficient. Get straight into the degree courses without all the repeat.
AP courses are a step in the right direction but I think US Universities are bloated and have many opportunities to be more efficient. This is one area.
1 year removed from degree is easy $25k of debt for too many students, much of which is paying for what the student already took in HS.
I like to UK model of a 3-year University degree. It’s more efficient. Get straight into the degree courses without all the repeat.
AP courses are a step in the right direction but I think US Universities are bloated and have many opportunities to be more efficient. This is one area.
1 year removed from degree is easy $25k of debt for too many students, much of which is paying for what the student already took in HS.
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:53 am to Turf Taint
Jobs programs.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:53 am to Turf Taint
Nothing about the current University system is about cost savings, efficiency or a trained graduating class
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:58 am to Turf Taint
I agree. English is important, but there is no reason a business major should have to take biology and calculus
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:59 am to Turf Taint
Most people claim college degrees just show an employer that you can stick to a goal and achieve it.
LOL so I guess those 12 years of school prior don’t count in that sense?
LOL so I guess those 12 years of school prior don’t count in that sense?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:01 am to Turf Taint
Useless classes affords the university 1 more year of your tuition. No different than advisors who steer the kids wrong, and extend their stay.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:01 am to Turf Taint
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:02 am to Jsand43
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I agree. English is important, but there is no reason a business major should have to take biology and calculus
Biology I could maybe get behind, but you and I have used calculus thousands of times in our lives after college.
I value of classical education. I enjoyed learning things I didn't know, it helped me learn to learn and think critically.
But most of you are gauge readers so I get it.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:03 am to Turf Taint
Graduating college is one of the least impressive things you can accomplish in this country. I don’t know why employers give a shite about them. I guess it’s an easy check in the box for the useless women in HR to qualify or disqualify people for jobs that the HR losers know nothing about in the first place.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:04 am to Turf Taint
The funny thing is that some people take those classes twice and are still dumb in those subjects.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:05 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:07 am to Turf Taint
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I like to UK model of a 3-year University degree. It’s more efficient. Get straight into the degree courses without all the repeat.
A "well-rounded" college education is just an excuse for collecting more tuition and fees.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:16 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Mingo, is this all an act or do you really get off on being a colossal douche?
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:17 am to Turf Taint
I got an accounting degree and one of the english classes i picked was on graphic novels. I wrote a paper on watchmen. That has absolutely nothing to do with becoming a cpa and while enjoyable was a huge waste of fricking time.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:21 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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but you and I have used calculus thousands of times in our lives after college.
no we dont, it was used in thousands of things we use in our everyday lives but most of us arent engineers, bilogists or work for nasa.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:23 am to dgnx6
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I got an accounting degree and one of the english classes i picked was on graphic novels. I wrote a paper on watchmen. That has absolutely nothing to do with becoming a cpa and while enjoyable was a huge waste of fricking time.
I understand your point, but if your English course was anything like the ones I had to take for my business degree in college, those 4-6 page papers you had to write every single fricking week helped hone your writing and communications skills. even in accounting, you often have to write out summaries for period ending analysis, just as an example, that could be pages long with an audience of executives that need the numbers broken down into a story they can grasp.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:24 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:26 am to dgnx6
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I got an accounting degree and one of the english classes i picked was on graphic novels. I wrote a paper on watchmen. That has absolutely nothing to do with becoming a cpa and while enjoyable was a huge waste of fricking time.
I got an accounting degree and the English class I took helps me tremendously as a CPA because I write technical papers to taxing jurisdictions all the time.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:26 am to TigerFanatic99
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I understand your point, but if your English course was anything like the ones I had to take for my business degree in college, those 4-6 page papers you had to write every single fricking week helped hone your writing and communications skills. even in accounting, you often have to write out summaries for period ending analysis, just as an example, that could be pages long with an audience of executives that need the numbers broken down into a story they can grasp.
i hear you but you had to take english compostion as a frshman then take this second level class that they had a few diff topics to pick from. the one was good enough imo.
Plus you still had to take communication studies and public speaking.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:27 am to dgnx6
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no we dont, it was used in thousands of things we use in our everyday lives but most of us arent engineers, bilogists or work for nasa.
I remodeled a house. I needed to understand all sorts of calculus theorums. I've used right triangles to measure distances before, etc, etc.
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:28 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I got an accounting degree and the English class I took helps me tremendously as a CPA because I right technical papers to taxing jurisdictions all the time.
So you took one English class in college? what about high school? i wrote more papers in hs than in college. i took more English classes in hs. that was 4 years of taking some form of english lit class vs two semesters in college.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:28 am to Turf Taint
Because you charge money. Universities are for-profit entities and there's been nothing more lucrative than government back student loans to stuff their coffers and raise their tuition rates.
It's even more insane when you hear the left ramble about the student loan crisis and then immediately follow it up with support towards more public funding for universities.
Universities are like an atheist church.
It's even more insane when you hear the left ramble about the student loan crisis and then immediately follow it up with support towards more public funding for universities.
Universities are like an atheist church.
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