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re: United Steel Workers call for strike at ExxonMobil Refinery in Beaumont

Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70156 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
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couldn’t imagine being held hostage by Union thug leadership. Those baws need to wise up and throw out Democrat scum boses.




Americans are being held hostage by the cabal in washington right now
Posted by Jebeco
Clear Lake City, TX
Member since Jul 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:01 pm to
Y'all act like companies like exxon have the average workers interest at heart. The only way these skilled workers get paid what their talent is worth is because of unions. Sure some unions including USW can be corrupt but you think companies like exxon are on the up and up?
If there is an enemy and good guy in this situation, you think companies like exxon are the good guys? And the middle class workers are evil?
Give me a break. y'all are pissed off at the wrong group.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26178 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
The BR refinery union is also USW.

USW leadership (above site) hijackings without allowing site union voting is nothing new.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16967 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:03 pm to
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You pay dues to a union that doesn’t have your best interests at heart…. You pay the price.



You don’t have to pay dues if you don’t want to. TX is a right to work state.


I feel bad for the craft workers that wants nothing to do with this, but is included.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17333 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Y'all have no idea the details.




So you think Tigerdroppings lacks posters that are informed about refineries on the gulf coast?
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:03 pm to
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He's gone moderate now because the Democrats have shifted so far right.

Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26178 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Jebeco


Found the operator on their phone with feet kicked up inside AC’d shelter. I’m sure there’s some housekeeping that needs to be done
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26178 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:05 pm to
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I feel bad for the craft workers that wants nothing to do with this, but is included.


This. When you join you can choose to pay or not pay dues. But regardless you don’t have a choice on being represented or not. You’d be surprised the percentage that don’t want USW representation.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3162 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:05 pm to
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I suspect not giving the membership the opportunity to vote on the proposal will not be favorable for USW.


They offered to extend the current agreement for another year. So whats to vote on? Lost wages? Higher insurance?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23099 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:06 pm to
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They are bought and paid for by nasty Democrats.




Union leadership is.

Rank and file members are largely Republican in many areas. That's why Biden is making such a huge union push right now. They are very nervous about the erosion of what used to be a 100% bloc vote for Democrats.
Posted by Aldo
Bay saint louis
Member since May 2017
198 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:07 pm to
Union=extortion
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28156 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:08 pm to
With refinery margins being shite, I’m sure Exxon is considering whether scaling back production is a beneficial option.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26178 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:09 pm to
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With refinery margins being shite, I’m sure Exxon is considering whether scaling back production is a beneficial option.


This guy doesn’t know whether Beaumont is making money or not.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 1:10 pm
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:11 pm to
They have been bargaining since January and can’t reach an agreement. ExxonMobil has a proposal. Why not let the members vote on it? Is the membership too dumb to make the decision?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51431 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Another union cut down is a win for America

Despite the problems with some major unions this kind of thinking is insanely ignorant. Unions are at least supposed to protect the workers from corporations fricking over their employees such as this situation
Posted by Jebeco
Clear Lake City, TX
Member since Jul 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:12 pm to
Very funny. Actually no. I am corporate with daily dealings with the union. I see their need for balance sake. Good of you to try and be cute though.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26178 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:14 pm to
Tell me in what job you work in corporate environment that has daily interactions with union. Curious
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:14 pm to
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The only way these skilled workers get paid what their talent is worth is because of unions.


Oh bullshite

And with the situation with the current oil and gas industry, they better be damn happy they have jobs.
The white collar Exxon workers have faced layoffs, pay cut, bonuses cut, and probably stock plan/401k hits, etc

I know that had happened at the other majors
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 7:05 am
Posted by Jebeco
Clear Lake City, TX
Member since Jul 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 1:15 pm to
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They have been bargaining since January and can’t reach an agreement. ExxonMobil has a proposal. Why not let the members vote on it? Is the membership too dumb to make the decision?


Sometimes it's like that. Exxon is probably wayyy off on their offer of what the union members have already stated they want. Remember, most of these negotiators are not union big wigs. These are hourly workers that represent the masses.
This post was edited on 5/1/21 at 1:16 pm
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