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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules

Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:07 am to
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:07 am to
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True. I'm not sure what his payout could be, all I see is this chart for this type of situation.

Domestic Flights:

0 to 1 hour arrival delay: No compensation
1 to 2 hour arrival delay: 200% of your one-way fare (up to a maximum of $650)
Over 2 hours arrival delay: 400% of your one-way fare (up to a maximum of $1,300)

Key is one-way fare.


Right, so if anything this dude might have a case.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:08 am to
I found this website to be very informative.

Obligations of Airlines and Passengers
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
98953 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:09 am to
Civil vs criminal
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:09 am to
Read through that website I just linked. After I did, I'm not so sure. But I'm OK with what United did.
Posted by bankdawg
Member since Mar 2012
178 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:10 am to
United Airlines newest policy when over booked was to offer Chinese takeout
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:10 am to
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Civil vs criminal


The civil violation would be breach of contract, the criminal would be tresspassing.

I think a criminal trial for tresspassing here would be hilarious.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19783 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:11 am to
Gotcha, I just quickly read the article.

It seems to me this would be a passenger vs United case, if United airlines personnel gave the Chicago Aviation Security to remove someone I would think that is direct authorization.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:11 am to
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The bad PR from this far, far outweighs any other option available to United when this situation occurred.




Just like every other social media outrage nobody will remember this in a month.

Last month it was southwest not allowing a couple kids on the plane in tights.

Next month it will be something else
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:12 am to
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It seems to me this would be a passenger vs United case, if United airlines personnel gave the Chicago Aviation Security to remove someone I would think that is direct authorization.


Nope.

quote:

The bad news: There is no private right of action for violation of the DOT’s consumer protection regulations. So passengers cannot sue the airline themselves and instead must rely on the DOT to enforce the rules.
Posted by iheartlsu
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
27750 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:13 am to
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Last month it was southwest not allowing a couple kids on the plane in tights.

Pretty sure that was United too
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19783 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:13 am to
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The bad news: There is no private right of action for violation of the DOT’s consumer protection regulations. So passengers cannot sue the airline themselves and instead must rely on the DOT to enforce the rules.


Just lol, figures.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to
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This should of happened before everyone boarded. Easier to bump someone at the gate. They should also offer more compsensation until some one volunteers
Yea, I don't get why they don't do this. The money lost there is likely less than the money lost as a result of the bad PR they're getting now.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4603 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to
Shares down 4.4% erasing 990M in market value
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15199 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:14 am to
I just watched the video. Yep United is screwed.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:16 am to
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Pretty sure that was United too




See nobody cares a month later
Posted by SanFranTiger
Santa Fe, NM
Member since Sep 2003
5046 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:16 am to
I am most shocked that they were pulling, and in some instances paying compensation to, paying customers to put non-revenue passengers on board.

This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:17 am to
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I think a criminal trial for tresspassing here would be hilarious.


There is no way that UAL will even try this, as boneheaded as the CEO is, his legal department would mutiny at the thought.

The hay DAL would make from that would be beyond humerous.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6751 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:17 am to
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Last month it was southwest not allowing a couple kids on the plane in tights.


That was also United. But they were friends of an employee and traveling on buddy passes. They HAD to follow a specific dress code.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6751 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:19 am to
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am most shocked that they were pulling, and in some instances paying compensation to, paying customers to put non-revenue passengers on board.


They were "must ride" employees who had to be in Louisville to operate a flight out of there the following morning.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:19 am to
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Yea, I don't get why they don't do this.


The practice is to do the VDB/IDB process at the gate before people get on the plane. Likely a combination of a last-minute switch to get this crew on the flight and incompetence from UA's staff in ORD.
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