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re: Union Trouble Brewing for Starbucks
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:59 am to Eurocat
Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:59 am to Eurocat
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No offense to anybody but if anyone is complaining about the Starbucks workers in this thread while also claiming to be a Trump fan, I am sorry, but you don't know or understand what Trumpism is (friendly to the common working man not the elite corporations
Trump's political positions are viewed as populist. Politicians and pundits alike have referred to Trump's populism, anti-free trade, and anti-immigrant stances as "Trumpism".
He is for the working man, but he doesn't hate ALL US corporations. He despises the laws that allow a U.S. Corp to overcharge, inflate, rip-off the American people. The big 3 are Pharma, Health Care, Insurance. He wants to change the laws to allow competition, which will lower prices.
Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite" (Pharma, Healthcare, Insurance). It is frequently associated with anti-establishment and anti-political sentiment.
quote:1. No one is forcing anyone to work at Starbucks. It's a free market, and they can work at any coffee shop across America. But, they are forced to buy Rx prescriptions at an inflated dictated U.S. price, especially when compared to discounted prices other countries offer. Why is that?
I find it surprising you don't get this. If you are a fan of Trump or DeSantis you should be on the workers side here. Donald Trump should walk the picket line with the workers and complain about "Elite Woke Corporate Bosses pushing corporate gay love mandates while not helping their employees when they get sick".
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Posted on 3/24/23 at 10:59 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:to be fair, he's in alaska. that's the bottom of the barrel (or bottle) americans.
Why do you hate Americans so much?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:01 am to TFSUXASS
If they would just call them coffee makers instead of baristas, we wouldn't be in this mess
That's too fancy of a name for someone that pours liquid in a cup from a machine
That's too fancy of a name for someone that pours liquid in a cup from a machine
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:02 am to Supermoto Tiger
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Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite"
The last people I want deciding my future is a bunch of restaurant workers and welfare recipients.
You need both workers and idea people. This pushing aside one for the other is really dumb.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:04 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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to be fair, he's in alaska. that's the bottom of the barrel (or bottle) americans.
From a guy who lives in a city where the average annual income is barely above poverty.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:06 am to TFSUXASS
Unions are a disease. It’s 2023 not 1923
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:07 am to Geralt of Rivia
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Unions are a disease.
If you ever have to manage union guys, you'd never want to work with them again.
It works in the construction trade, it doesn't work anywhere else.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:12 am to 0x15E
Credit card tipping is kinda funny now. It used to be that you added it to the receipt. Now it’s all on a touch screen and most people are embarrassed or feel rushed at the register especially when there’s a line. So they hit the 15% or 20% button instead of “custom tip” where you can simply leave $1 or $2 or whatever you prefer.
Say you go to Starbucks and order 4 drinks and it averages out to be $30 (yes it’s possible). 20% on that is $6 where as normally most people likely throw a couple of bucks in there.
Compound that when it’s a short order food place like a sandwich or burrito place. Your bill could be $60 and instead of throwing I. $3-4 people hit 20% which is now $12.
The stupidity of people benefits them
Say you go to Starbucks and order 4 drinks and it averages out to be $30 (yes it’s possible). 20% on that is $6 where as normally most people likely throw a couple of bucks in there.
Compound that when it’s a short order food place like a sandwich or burrito place. Your bill could be $60 and instead of throwing I. $3-4 people hit 20% which is now $12.
The stupidity of people benefits them
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:20 am to Supermoto Tiger
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But, they are forced to buy Rx prescriptions at an inflated dictated U.S. price, especially when compared to discounted prices other countries offer. Why is that?
Most of the drug R&D is done here in the United States, often at a cost of billions per drug brought to market. The drug companies have to be able to recoup those costs somewhere; otherwise, innovation stops.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:21 am to Floyd Dawg
So collect it worldwide. Your argument is bullshite.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:33 am to TFSUXASS
Lol @ these people.
They are a step (barely) above a French fry maker
They are a step (barely) above a French fry maker
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Their demands are unreasonable. No sane human should support. When you reward lack of education and/or skill with high paying jobs, you get people who never advance in their lives.
Hi Roger, good to see you!
I dunno, I am kind of torn about this. On the one hand I understand what you are talking about is some kind of American Dynamism, American Rah-Rah capitalist spirit.
But the option of making a life long gig out of starbucks, for some, it's about what they can attain. They will never be doctors or lawyers or architects.
I lived in Germany for two seperate one year periods. I used to go to the same mini-supermarket all the time and there were about four ladies that rotated at the cash register. The fact that they didn't change over the course of a year didn't surprise me, or at least I didn't notice it or think much about it.
I DID notice that FIVE YEARS later the SAME four ladies were still there. Then I realized that is what they had set out to do and would do forever. Job - "Check out Lady". And they would retire after this "career" at 65 and go live off their pensions and drink their wine and eat their sausages.
They didn't have the go-go spirit of America, but they had stability, predictability, security and that for many people is what they want for more than the chance to "move up".
Something to consider! Have a terrific day!
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:50 am to Eurocat
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what you are talking about is some kind of American Dynamism, American Rah-Rah capitalist spirit.
No, I am talking about behaviorism, not economics though it applies to it.
Most people never improve if give them an avenue to survive without it. Entry level jobs aren't supposed to support your family. They're supposed to give you enough skill to move to a more profitable career.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:51 am to Eurocat
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Then I realized that is what they had set out to do and would do forever. Job - "Check out Lady". And they would retire after this "career" at 65 and go live off their pensions and drink their wine and eat their sausages.
This isn't Germany. Their population in general is far more educated and motivated. Our population reads at an 8th grade level.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:51 am to Eurocat
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And they would retire after this "career" at 65 and go live off their pensions a
And here is the problem.
That can’t work here because of so many sitting on their arse collecting government money and cheating the system.
You can’t realistically find a pension program
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:59 am to TigerFred
quote:they'll demand 250% tip on CC transactions or spit in your pumpkin spice latte
Ridiculous, how will they pay off their student loans in the XXXXX studies degree?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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When you reward lack of education and/or skill with high paying jobs, you get people who never advance in their lives.
I am willing to accept that the drive of some people will make them "checker for life" types and I would rather have them doing that than collecting welfare.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:02 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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This could turn out to be a venti problem for Starbucks.
A 20 problem?
he could have word played it better:
Asking for venti dollars an hour is a grande problem. maybe to tall an obstacle to overcome.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:03 pm to notiger1997
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And here is the problem. That can’t work here because of so many sitting on their arse collecting government money and cheating the system. You can’t realistically find a pension program
The pension is social security, which we have.
I fully agree a lot of system games are out there.
But there are a lot of people out there who will never be able to hold down a gig. Go to people of WalMart and imagine them in a job interview.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 12:04 pm to Eurocat
quote:
I lived in Germany for two seperate one year periods. I used to go to the same mini-supermarket all the time and there were about four ladies that rotated at the cash register. The fact that they didn't change over the course of a year didn't surprise me, or at least I didn't notice it or think much about it.
I DID notice that FIVE YEARS later the SAME four ladies were still there. Then I realized that is what they had set out to do and would do forever. Job - "Check out Lady". And they would retire after this "career" at 65 and go live off their pensions and drink their wine and eat their sausages.
correct me about my understanding of Europe's education system (Germany in this case,) but weren't they most likely graded at a younger age and then put on a learning track for their capabilities?
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 12:05 pm
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