re: UNH's UnitedHealth CEO shot and killed

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Guy was separated from his “ estranged “ wife… now the real stuff starts.. shacked up with killers wife?? Wife hires hitman???

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This makes it seem almost certain it was a vengeance killing:

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The three words were written on the ammunition a masked gunman used to kill UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, according to two law enforcement officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Thursday. They’re similar to the phrase “delay, deny, defend” — the way some attorneys describe how insurers deny services and payment, and the title of a 2010 book that was highly critical of the industry.

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Personally, I’m hoping it’s either this or he FAFO’d with the mob or some cartel.

Probably not a popular opinion here, but I prefer that we don’t have a country where executives are shot in the street for running companies that people don’t like.

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Someone downvoted this, which is scary. Might be some legit psychos in this thread.

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No, they aren't. You guys gotta stop making shite up... lol Also, the BCBS companies (2 per member) require PA's at more than 2x the rate of UHC (.9 per member). BCBS companies have a PA denial rate of 6.3% versus 8.7% for UHC.

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Your link shows nothing relevant, but here’s something for you to chew on:

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2024-10-17-senate-report-scrutinizes-medicare-advantage-prior-authorization-denials-post-acute-care-services

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A report released Oct. 17 by the Senate Homeland Security Committee’s investigative subcommittee scrutinizes some of the nation's largest Medicare Advantage insurers for their use of prior authorization and high rates of denials for certain types of care. The subcommittee sought documents and information from the three largest MA insurance companies — UnitedHealthcare, Humana and CVS — and investigated their practice of “intentionally using prior authorization to boost profits by targeting costly yet critical stays in post-acute care facilities.” The report found that between 2019 and 2022, UHC, Humana and CVS denied prior authorization requests for post-acute care at far higher rates than other types of care. In 2022, UHC and CVS denied prior authorization requests for post-acute care at approximately three times higher than the companies' overall denial rat

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Let me know if you need help responding to your subpoena. Thanks for playing!

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Your link shows nothing relevant, but here’s something for you to chew on:

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You wouldn’t know what’s relevant if it slapped you in the face. My link concerns denial rates for ALL prior authorizations… yours is concerning only acute care. And your link doesn't say that UHC denies acute care at a higher rate than other companies, only that it denies it at a higher rate than other forms of care. You don't even understand what your reading, dummy.

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The report found that between 2019 and 2022, UHC, Humana and CVS denied prior authorization requests for post-acute care at far higher rates than other types of care. In 2022, UHC and CVS denied prior authorization requests for post-acute care at approximately three times higher than the companies

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lol… it’s like you guys don’t understand words and numbers…

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costly yet critical stays in post-acute care facilities

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This is more of a referendum on medicare advantage as a whole. With original medicare skilled nursing is given out like candy. With managed care (medicare advantage) request are reviewed and granted in more "necessary" situations whereas with medicare, they do not have prior authorization reviews and will pay up to 100 days. People can bill whatever they want and SOMETIMES Medicare does retrospective reviews and takes back money if they seem something wasn't necessary BUT the money that is earned as whole makes the gamble worth it.

Post acute facilities LOVE original medicare because they can keep a patient there as long as they need or want to fill a bed and don't ever have to prove medical necessity until MAYBE after the payments have been made on not even on that many so it's an easy revenue source. This is one reason Medicare is dead arse broke; it's so easily abused, overused and frauded.

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Probably not a popular opinion here, but I prefer that we don’t have a country where executives are shot in the street for running companies that people don’t like.

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I think everyone would agree with that in principle. The issue is the agency that is supposed to keep them in check, the government, is in bed with them.

So what choice is left?

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Count me in the camp that believes this is more likely a hit and not a civilian seeking vengeance over denied insurance. I think it's clear the guy had help from someone.

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It's always a higher likelihood that it's something personal. Maybe the CEO was fricking this guy's wife or girlfriend.

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Count me in the camp that believes this is more likely a hit and not a civilian seeking vengeance over denied insurance. I think it's clear the guy had help from someone who knew the CEO.

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I think there’s a question of whether the shooter was acting alone. He was using his burner phone in the minutes prior to the shooting. If it’s true about the unspent casings with writing on them then my thoughts lead to him being a fanatic.

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If it’s true about the unspent casings with writing on them then my thoughts lead to him being a fanatic.

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It really depends on how smart this person is. They could have potentially left that to throw off investigators.

There have been known criminals in the past that would leave random items at crime scenes just to muddle up the investigation.