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Underground landfill fire creeping closer to nuclear waste site in St. Louis

Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:11 pm
Officials claim if the fire actually reaches the nuclear waste, it could cause Chernobyl-like radioactive plumes to billow out of the ground at the site, potentially resulting in a catastrophe that would destroy St. Louis and poison a large portion of the country east of St. Louis all the way to the East coast.

LA Times Story
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An underground landfill fire is smoldering in a densely populated suburb of St. Louis — and it has been there for five years.

Underground landfill fires, or "smoldering events" as some officials call them, aren't rare. What makes the fire at the landfill in Bridgeton, Mo., so unusual is that it's less than a quarter of a mile from a large deposit of nuclear waste — with no barrier in its way.



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The radioactive legacy of St. Louis' role in the World War II atomic weapons program has unleashed Cold War-style nuclear paranoia in the area, as some residents debate what kind of gas masks to buy or whether to move away.

The story begins with the race to develop the world's first nuclear weapon. In 1942, Mallinckrodt Chemical Works secretly agreed to purify uranium in St. Louis for the federal government's Manhattan Project.

In the decades after World War II, responsibility for Mallinckrodt's uranium-processing waste changed hands several times. Cotter Corp. quietly buried 8,700 tons of what government investigators later identified as leached barium sulfate residue at the West Lake Landfill in 1973.

In 1990, the West Lake Landfill was deemed a Superfund site to be managed by the EPA. In 2008, waste conglomerate Republic Services acquired the companies responsible for the West Lake site and for a neighboring lot, the Bridgeton Landfill, where the fire is smoldering.




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Corporate, federal and state officials don't agree on what kind of threat West Lake Landfill poses to residents, or even if it poses a threat at all. Various scientists and officials have presented clashing stories to the public about whether the underground fire is moving and what might happen if it reaches the nuclear waste.

There might be a dangerous radioactive plume that forces residents to take shelter indoors or evacuate, St. Louis County emergency officials say.

Environmental Protection Agency officials counter that there might be a bit of radon gas, which may not even escape the landfill's perimeter.

The Missouri attorney general's office, which is suing the landfill's owner, contends the fire is creeping closer to the radioactive materials.

The EPA, however, says the fire is staying put.

"We just do not agree with the finding that the subsurface smoldering event is approaching the radiologically impacted material," said Mary Peterson, director of the Superfund division for EPA Region 7.

Residents have been baffled to learn that radioactive waste exists at the dump, and even more puzzled that regulators have yet to finalize a plan to contain or remove the nuclear material — four decades after a company illegally dumped it. The EPA is still evaluating whether to place a cap on the site, or excavate the radioactive material, or both.



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"There is a potential for radioactive fallout to be released in the smoke plume and spread throughout the region," St. Louis County officials warned in an emergency response plan, which was drawn up in October 2014 to "save lives in the event of a catastrophic event at the West Lake Landfill."

The EPA is probing the landfill to figure out exactly where all the radioactive material is and considering how to place a barrier between the fire and the nuclear waste. It downplays concerns about a Chernobyl-like disaster.

Peterson said the EPA doesn't know "for certain" what might happen if the underground fire hits the radioactive material. "But a somewhat plausible scenario would be there would be some very localized radon gas emissions to come off, but we don't expect particulate matter or anything like that," she said.

A report by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Service's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, released Friday, warned that disturbing the surface of the landfill could release radium-226, radon-222 and radium-228 into the air and put landfill workers, in particular, at risk.

Radon is a leading cause of lung cancer, and radium can increase the risk of bone, liver and breast cancer, according to the health agency.

In the past, releases of radon at the landfill have sometimes exceeded regulatory limits for safety "by as much as 10 to 25 times at individual surface test locations," the agency said in its report.
This post was edited on 10/20/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:12 pm to
tl;Dr

Enjoy your superpowers.
Posted by Jakesonaplane
Denver
Member since Nov 2010
7313 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:13 pm to
Anything to give your TD name some meaning. I bet you started this fire
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:13 pm to
Sounds like to me, somebody better get to work.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:14 pm to
Don't get the EPA involved. They'll set the nuclear waste on fire and call it a day.
Posted by LSUballs
P.A.I.G
Member since Feb 2008
40411 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:14 pm to
If it gets Branson, it's worth it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131832 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:14 pm to
Step one: Put fire out

No other steps needed
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:15 pm to
Can we direct the plumes towards Ferguson?
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Step one: Put fire out



Difficult to do when the fire is deep underground. It's like putting out an underground coal mine fire...it just can't be done.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Can we direct the plumes towards Ferguson?



this is in an area that is only 10 or 15 minutes from Ferguson...perhaps less. If radioactive plumes were released, Ferguson would be one of the first cities to be poisoned.
Posted by Jakesonaplane
Denver
Member since Nov 2010
7313 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:18 pm to
#poisonedlivesmatter
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12787 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:18 pm to
Holy frick man...


ETA: frick you people for making jokes about this. I grew up in St Louis and have family there. I didn't chuckle at your expense when Katrina hit. If this happens, it will be far worse than that. frickers.
This post was edited on 10/20/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:19 pm to
does anyone actually like st. louis? would anyone miss it?

I think this answers whether we should be concerned about this.
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

this is in an area that is only 10 or 15 minutes from Ferguson...perhaps less. If radioactive plumes were released, Ferguson would be one of the first cities to be poisoned.


Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Holy frick man...



It's a real true to life potential national catastrophe in the making...unless they excavate the nuclear waste and move it, build a barrier between the landfill and the nuclear waste, or cap the nuclear waste site like they capped the Chernobyl reactor.

It's amazing that EPA, state, and city officials allowed this to happen. They allowed a landfill company to purchase property adjacent to a well known Superfund nuclear waste dump.

I fricking hate our government.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:23 pm to
The EPA says it's fine...
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61809 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:23 pm to
Oooohhhh another thread like this from you.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:25 pm to
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in a catastrophe that would destroy St. Louis


Those damn cops and handguns! I knew we should have banned them.

#BLM
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

The EPA says it's fine...



The EPA also caused one of the largest environmental disaster ever at the Gold King Mill/Animas River site in Colorado.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 10/20/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Oooohhhh another thread like this from you.



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