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re: UK government furious with China, believes it has 40x more COVID-19 cases than reported

Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:11 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80524 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:11 am to
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China is WAY above 200k.


They are probably willing to kill any showing symptoms to stop the spread.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11050 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:18 am to
Doesn’t matter how many China had, the UK is responsible for not quarantining at the borders and testing everyone who came from there. And so are we.
This was entirely preventable. Greed really is a deadly sin.

China knew they were fricked. But they decided to make sure everyone else was fricked too. And we let them. That’s on us.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:22 am to
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Every other country is soaring yet at 80k cases and the amount of poverty and people there china is leveling off? Yeah right



Taking population density, reliance on public transit, and China's delayed initial response into account....there's NO frickING WAY they aren't lying.
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2982 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:23 am to
China is a-hole
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:24 am to
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China knew they were fricked. But they decided to make sure everyone else was fricked too. And we let them. That’s on us.



They waited about 6 weeks before admitting that human-human transmission was possible, let alone occurring in Wuhan complete unchecked.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4032 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:31 am to
I've seen from a few reporters in China that are estimating 40k+ dead in Wuhan alone.. China says 2800 deaths or something ridiculous for the whole country.

They say the crematoriums have been running their ovens 24/7 for weeks
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51400 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:49 am to
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Hey, i have and idea. What if we all tell China to jamb it, and we start making shite in America again?






Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28097 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:51 am to
If you think there’s a reckoning coming for China wait until Britain comes after Boris for listening to the 1% of epidemiologists that said do nothing and hope for herd immunity. He’s about 10 IQ points away from a retard.
Posted by Peter Venkman
Jackson, TN
Member since Aug 2016
2605 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:51 am to
Let’s just nuke them when this is all over with.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41469 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:54 am to
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F corporate America and our politicians for letting China gain the financial foothold they have on our country.


That comes directly from the Bush Clinton bush 20 year run. frick em
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5160 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:55 am to
Even those figures are probably not close.

It was reported that over 21 million cell phones in China were cancelled. From what I understand, everyone in China must have a cell phone to get their health codes from the government. 21 million cancellations = 21 million deaths?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41469 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:56 am to
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Hey, i have and idea. What if we all tell China to jamb it, and we start making shite in America again?


Stop being a racist xenophobic white supremacist. Those jobs are never coming back.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41469 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:00 am to
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Doesn’t matter how many China had, the UK is responsible for not quarantining at the borders and testing everyone who came from there. And so are we.


The US started too, but the media and opposition politicians made it political, and now look
Posted by Stretch Suba
Member since Jun 2019
1300 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:00 am to
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A brutal socialist nationalist regime with an abysmal record on human rights lied about a disease?


And, yet, there is a significant portion of this country, represented by a significant portion of Congress, that wants the United States to adopt socialism. A good many of these people are in the media.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76413 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:00 am to
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21 million cancellations = 21 million deaths?


If so then every single person in China got the virus and the mortality rate is 1.5%.

Neither seem likely.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9585 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:01 am to
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What the hell difference does it make what china claims....it is not some kind of race or something.


I hope you’re being sarcastic. If not, let me explain to you...

It matters because the rest of the world wasn’t prepared like we could have been had China not lied and covered up the severity of this.



And covered up when it started.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of their "private" holding companies have profited off US and EU markets reactions with early info China held back from the world.

Not only did they start to blame the US for spreading this in China I doubt with the economic hit they were taking at the time they would choose option 1 between - 1 deciding to inform the world and share into completely and trust world to help China altruistically or 2 decide to withhold & cover up and use delay & withheld info to make competition more even by going through a hard time with late info, aid China's recovery with some insider knowledge on true nature of virus in China, and even possibly use it increase their economic power with some countries while negotiating with China for help.

I don't think WHO was allowed to come in until February.

Didn't they get Italy to sign some agreement that was tied to their help?
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62073 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:03 am to
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F corporate America and our politicians for letting China gain the financial foothold they have on our country.




Meh. Consumers have some responsibility here as well. We want and buy cheap shite.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71068 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:06 am to
Consumers also have 100% of the power to change it. We can vote many times a day every day with our wallets. I dont think Americans have the stomach for it
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20584 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:08 am to
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If so then every single person in China got the virus and the mortality rate is 1.5%.

Neither seem likely.



21M seems very extreme, but consider:
-their population is heavy into smoking
-air pollution is awful
-the spread was allowed unchecked for a month or months
-treatment limited/no ventilators
-drugs limited/non existent

The result of all of that will be a true mortality rate shockingly higher than western nations with a much higher population. Ultimately we will never know most likely.

Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:12 am to
Just take a look at some of the publicized “donations” of test kits and medical supplies Chinese billionaire Jack Ma (Alibaba CEO) has made over the past few weeks. In particular look at those to African nations. Anyone who doesn’t think there’s some kind of quid pro quo going on with natural resource rich nations being conveniently selected as the recipients of the “donations” is pretty naive.
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