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Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:28 am to tgrbaitn08
what's your point in showing me that?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:30 am to PapaPogey
you guys that hate Conor are gonna love this newcomer Phil Brooks.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:33 am to DirklasDaDirk
I don't hate the dude, I just don't like flashy "all about the money, I make you better blah blah bullshite" guys. If he keeps winning, good for him because he's a damn good fighter, but I hope he loses.
eta: and I see he's from WWE. Congrats Dana White. WWE=UFC
eta: and I see he's from WWE. Congrats Dana White. WWE=UFC
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/9/15 at 11:50 am to Barf
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Let me ask you this; Do you think McGregors first loss in the UFC will be as big, if not bigger, than his biggest win?
It will be huge and everyone will be quick to tear him apart because of how much he always talks about how he can back up his shite talking. Which to this point he has and in impressive fashion.
McGregor is a very very good fighter and I get that his mouth is mainly what has driven his popularity. It's just a bit hypocritical when Dana bashes the WWE when his fighters do the same stuff.
No matter what I'll always like UFC more because the fighting is actually a quality product.
This post was edited on 9/9/15 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:12 pm to PapaPogey
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IMO, if UFC wants to be more of a sport, and not entertainment only, they need much less of this shite. Sure it hypes him up, but I have more respect for the guys who respect the sport and each other
You are 100% wrong. It's all about creating a persona that resonates with prospective fans and their wallets... and different sports need to drum up interest in different ways.
For a team sport, you build around a school, or ideally around some aspect of the community. For instance, the Pittsburgh Steelers, in making themselves The Steelers, directly appealed the working class community.
In gentleman sports like tennis and golf, the marketing machine that drives the industry pushes the agenda more than the players themselves. Roger Federer, Tiger Woods, etc. are as popular as they are because Nike, Taylormade, Wilson, Rolex and other brands pay a lot of money to create a persona that appeals to casual fans across the world.
For the above sports-- individual and team alike-- there is a vested monetary interest in having players be ideal role models. There is a close tie to the community on the behalf of team sports and there is the perception that if you buy these golf clubs or wear this Nike gear, you are being like Tiger or Michael Jordan, etc. There's a lot of gear to be sold to a lot of fans and their children.
In fighting sports, it's different. Outside of shorts, there's not a lot of gear to be sold (excluding Affliction / Ed Hardy t-shirts... which is indirect). There's no jerseys to speak of and not many people are going to buy boxing gloves or mma gloves. While the supplement industry makes endorsement related money, that's just about it. Lacking the same level of community allegiance that sports teams enjoy and lacking the level of marketing cache for shoes, jerseys & athletic gear that tennis, golf & team sports inspire, fight sports can only bank on generating interest by having people take a more vested interest in the fighters themselves.
This directly means that it's important to have at least a few guys with larger than life personalities to draw interest. Nobody outside of hard core fight fans are going to care if a couple of hard working, decent men who are good fighters square off against one another. It's more interesting to see two personalities get together... some will want to see the heel get his arse beat; others will pull for him and his politically incorrect ways.
Some sensitive souls may be turned off by this, but it draws more interest than it loses. And Conor McGregor will retire comparatively more wealthy for playing the bad behavior up than acting like a gentlemen. Given that he's likely looking at a 5-10 year career, do you blame him?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:16 pm to PapaPogey
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IMO, if UFC wants to be more of a sport, and not entertainment only, they need much less of this shite. Sure it hypes him up, but I have more respect for the guys who respect the sport and each other.
Lol... Yeah, 'cause boxing never had any personalities like that, and I'm pretty sure everyone would consider boxing a sport.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:38 pm to rlebl39
Yup. Hope Aldo decimates him and puts an end to this nonsense.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:42 pm to RummelTiger
Again, I never mentioned boxing. Dana wants to be different than the WWE, but he lets stupid shite like this go on during a conference where there are other fighters trying to also promote their own fights.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:45 pm to Barf
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WWE is fake, so not sure how you are drawing a comparison. Floyd Mayweather made $300 million and everything he says is "about money."
You're labeling an entire organization douchy because one dude from some shite hole in Dublin likes to wear sunglasses indoors and talk about getting paid.
The UFC is douchy because Conor McGregor... Yeah. Ok.
I believe what many of us are saying that a few years ago UFC fights had more to do with putting two very evenly matched opponents in the ring with a great anticipation for who was going to leave victorious. Now the sport revolves around pressers and tweets.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 12:57 pm to Kingpenm3
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I believe what many of us are saying that a few years ago UFC fights had more to do with putting two very evenly matched opponents in the ring with a great anticipation for who was going to leave victorious. Now the sport revolves around pressers and tweets.
I wonder what would happen if you compared the number of press conferences that are held by LSU football to the number of games they play.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:00 pm to PapaPogey
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IMO, if UFC wants to be more of a sport, and not entertainment only, they need much less of this shite. Sure it hypes him up, but I have more respect for the guys who respect the sport and each other.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:19 pm to Kingpenm3
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I believe what many of us are saying that a few years ago UFC fights had more to do with putting two very evenly matched opponents in the ring with a great anticipation for who was going to leave victorious. Now the sport revolves around pressers and tweets.
like Kimbo Slice vs Roy Nelson and Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock 3 (the two most watched fights in the history of cable)
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:25 pm to meauxjeaux2
You must be from Ireland. Cause my pee pee be Dublin
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:30 pm to PapaPogey
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dude, it's just my opinion. I'm a pretty humble dude and I don't like loud mouth trash talking athletes in any sport.
So i guess you would have been against Ali in his prime? Would he have turned you away from boxing?
Posted on 9/9/15 at 1:33 pm to meauxjeaux2
So many monster cans in one video...
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